Leaving out Elano

[alib]

Never trust anyone with a rat-face.

or a man who tucks his shirt into his underpants

 

[moomba]

Moomba,

Your comments continue to amuse me. Never has someone been so selective with what 'news' coming out of the club they choose to believe. You're quite willing to stand behind whatever negative things you hear or read about Hughes, but suddenly become unsure when we talk about players, such as Elano. You can't have it both ways! Either you believe what is printed or you don't. It makes no sense for you to extrapolate truth based on personal opinion.

It's nice that you're so interesting in me to keep track of my posts. But I don't know what you are talking about in particular? What am I unsure about when it comes to Elano?

Or maybe, like so many on here, you have intimate knowledge of the dressing room and the inner workings of Manchester City Football Club?

And I still don't know where you stand on the main issue. You seem to be hedgings your bets to me. You constantly point the finger of blame at Hughes, with good reason I'm sure, but don't want him to go? Have a little bit of courage in your convistions, man. If you want genuinely don't think that we will improve under Hughes then why do you want him to stay?

Hughes has got criticism from me because he has deserved criticism. And while I previously said that I was prepared to give him a chance to turn things around, I said that a return of 7 points from the 4 games starting with Everton was a bare minimum. We can't do that now, and there is increasing evidence that he has lost the dressing room.

As I said earlier today I now want him sacked.

 

[ejohn]

Don't be too hard on yourself Brucie Bonus

 

[Marvin]

The manager runs selection, and tactics. if a player doesn't like it, tough, they are not professional

 

[Disturbance]

Never trust anyone with a rat-face.

Even by your low standards that is shit

 

[svennis pennis]

No. Was said to me in confidence and that is where it stays.

PM???!!! I dont want to be defending someone who "needs to go"???!!!

Likewise please.

 

[moonies lovechild]

Let's face it , he's gone ...let's move on . He's a whinger and a trouble maker who couldn't tackle the skin off a rice (or any other ) pudding.

thats the problem. elano doesnt tackle, he isnt that kind of player.

hughes expects him to tackle, whilst Brazil dont.

Who has had more success? Brazil? or leslie?

Rags accomodate Ronaldo because he doesnt tackle
Chelseas accomodate Joe Cole, he doesnt tackle.
Arsenal accomodate Rosisky, Vela, Van Persie, they dont tackle


How many tackles do you see messi doing? Kaka?

Fuck me, is we signed them Hughes would sub them because they wouldnt track back and tackle.

Elano is a talent that we need, more now so than ever.

Forevercity - I always respect your opinions on here as they are often well thought out but PLEASE do not compare Elano to any of the above players. Off the top of my head he has been truly influential in three games since he joined us (Boro at home and Newcastle home and away) but other than that I am struggling to see what he has done for us that warrants such support.

 

[mackenzie]

PM???!!! I dont want to be defending someone who "needs to go"???!!!

Likewise please.

Not happening SP. Calm down.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

thats the problem. elano doesnt tackle, he isnt that kind of player.

hughes expects him to tackle, whilst Brazil dont.

Who has had more success? Brazil? or leslie?

Rags accomodate Ronaldo because he doesnt tackle
Chelseas accomodate Joe Cole, he doesnt tackle.
Arsenal accomodate Rosisky, Vela, Van Persie, they dont tackle


How many tackles do you see messi doing? Kaka?

Fuck me, is we signed them Hughes would sub them because they wouldnt track back and tackle.

Elano is a talent that we need, more now so than ever.

Forevercity - I always respect your opinions on here as they are often well thought out but PLEASE do not compare Elano to any of the above players. Off the top of my head he has been truly influential in three games since he joined us (Boro at home and Newcastle home and away) but other than that I am struggling to see what he has done for us that warrants such support.

Elano with Messi Kaka van Persie and Cole? More like zoltan gera.

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

thats the problem. elano doesnt tackle, he isnt that kind of player.

hughes expects him to tackle, whilst Brazil dont.

Who has had more success? Brazil? or leslie?

Rags accomodate Ronaldo because he doesnt tackle
Chelseas accomodate Joe Cole, he doesnt tackle.
Arsenal accomodate Rosisky, Vela, Van Persie, they dont tackle


How many tackles do you see messi doing? Kaka?

Fuck me, is we signed them Hughes would sub them because they wouldnt track back and tackle.

Elano is a talent that we need, more now so than ever.

Forevercity - I always respect your opinions on here as they are often well thought out but PLEASE do not compare Elano to any of the above players. Off the top of my head he has been truly influential in three games since he joined us (Boro at home and Newcastle home and away) but other than that I am struggling to see what he has done for us that warrants such support.

Have a look at the number of assists he got last season, never mind goals. He was involved in a pretty high percentage from memory

He may not be doing as well this season, but do people genuninely think Vassell, Fernandes and now some kid from the reserves should be in the pecking order ahead of him?!

 

[moomba]

Have a look at the number of assists he got last season, never mind goals. He was involved in a pretty high percentage from memory

He was involved in 39% of our goals last season, 4th best in the league.

And was involved in 21% of our assists, 4th best in the league.

And some people are trying to make out that he is rubbish.

 

[Brucie Bonus]

Never trust anyone with a rat-face.

Even by your low standards that is shit

? Explain please :-).

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

Thank you Statto/Moomba

Elano has probably played his last game for us, Hughes strikes me as a man of principles, he clearly for whatever reason doesnt like/rate Elano........what we've got to worry about now is what impact this is going to have on Robinho?

He sees his best mate (one of the reasons he signed for us in the first place) being treated , rightly or wrongly, like dogsh9t..........will he throw his toys out of the pram? Wouldnt be the first time, look what happened at Real Madrid

 

[Marvin]

Yes

At home, when Ireland, Robinho and SWP are available, I'd pick them every time

I've given up expecting anything from elano away from home.

He's had chances as recently as Everton at home, and Santander away. I can't remember the last time I saw him play well away. There's been some games, particularly Bolton away, when I've felt cheated by his 'efforts'. I don't work hard all week, and give so much emotional energy to my club, to see a talented but seemingly careless play give so little for the shirt.

At the start of the season, I thought Hughes would get him fit, and that we'd see some consistency as a result. He is fitter, but it hasn't had any effect on his game.

 

[mackenzie]

Thank you Statto/Moomba

Elano has probably played his last game for us, Hughes strikes me as a man of principles, he clearly for whatever reason doesnt like/rate Elano........what we've got to worry about now is what impact this is going to have on Robinho?

He sees his best mate (one of the reasons he signed for us in the first place) being treated , rightly or wrongly, like dogsh9t..........will he throw his toys out of the pram? Wouldnt be the first time, look what happened at Real Madrid

IF Robinho throws his toys out of the pram because his bestest mate has left the Club then he is a tw8t.

Sorry, but it's how I feel about frickin Footballers at this moment in time.

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

Yes

At home, when Ireland, Robinho and SWP are available, I'd pick them every time

I've given up expecting anything from elano away from home.

He's had chances as recently as Everton at home, and Santander away. I can't remember the last time I saw him play well away. There's been some games, particularly Bolton away, when I've felt cheated by his 'efforts'. I don't work hard all week, and give so much emotional energy to my club, to see a talented but seemingly careless play give so little for the shirt.

At the start of the season, I thought Hughes would get him fit, and that we'd see some consistency as a result. He is fitter, but it hasn't had any effect on his game.

It doesnt help that he's been playing out of position all season either...........Ireland rightly merits to play just behind the striker (although I know he wasnt there today), but what happens if Ireland gets injured? The squad is paper thin as it is without selling the likes of Elano

 

[Disturbance]

Have a look at the number of assists he got last season, never mind goals. He was involved in a pretty high percentage from memory

He was involved in 39% of our goals last season, 4th best in the league.

And was involved in 21% of our assists, 4th best in the league.

And some people are trying to make out that he is rubbish.

All true but you may as well bang your head against a brick wall, as the ones who slate Elano will never give him credit no matter what he does. I've seen posts made after 10 minutes of a game to point out that he misplaced a pass, yet when Kompany or Ireland loses it or SWP runs down a blind alley it goes unmentioned. The anti-Elano clique stick to their mantra of "he's been crap for a year" without bothering to judge his performances in full.

 

[pakhtun]

Exactly moomba. This guy's a moron. Elano and Petrov were the reason we were in the top 9 last season, not Ireland or Dunne. Can't believe the blues on here slaggin him off. No loyalty at all. Hope he and Jo stay. Any manager but Hughes would keep Elano and start him...from Scolari to SGE. He's class, end of.

And stringin Clayton along for the ride must of sucked. He should've been in there not Gelson. Hughes could've turned to Mee earlier on in the season as well. What's the point 2 havin r brilliant Academy? Just to sell the talent off without ever using it r selves?

 

[Wooderbeen]

He was involved in 39% of our goals last season, 4th best in the league.

And was involved in 21% of our assists, 4th best in the league.

And some people are trying to make out that he is rubbish.

All true but you may as well bang your head against a brick wall, as the ones who slate Elano will never give him credit no matter what he does. I've seen posts made after 10 minutes of a game to point out that he misplaced a pass, yet when Kompany or Ireland loses it or SWP runs down a blind alley it goes unmentioned. The anti-Elano clique stick to their mantra of "he's been crap for a year" without bothering to judge his performances in full.

I think you're absolutely right. But, to be fair, I think Elano is held to higher standard than the players just mentioned because we saw what he is capable of doing in his first couple of months here (and unlike Kompany, Ireland and SWP, he's not performed as well as we know he can do for quite some time). I would disagree with anyone that says he is a poor player, he's clearly not, but his form has dipped and he consistently plays below par. That's frustrating for everyone, is it not?

 

[DAGW]

Have a look at the number of assists he got last season, never mind goals. He was involved in a pretty high percentage from memory

He was involved in 39% of our goals last season, 4th best in the league.

And was involved in 21% of our assists, 4th best in the league.

And some people are trying to make out that he is rubbish.

He's a good player on his day, brings the best out of robinho - isnt that what the wanker in charge wants?
Any other manager could see its worth playing him.
Kick our stupid fucking manager in the face!