Lee Mason

I'm still not convinced the referee or linesman saw Aguero's handball for the disallowed goal. No flag waving for from the liner. He just ran back to half way. The referee gave the goal too until he was hounded by Stoke players.

It was the correct decision but i'm not sure either of them saw it
 
wolfie1988 said:
I'm still not convinced the referee or linesman saw Aguero's handball for the disallowed goal. No flag waving for from the liner. He just ran back to half way. The referee gave the goal too until he was hounded by Stoke players.

It was the correct decision but i'm not sure either of them saw it
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He also gave us the penalty on Silva which for me was a dive. There was a blatant penalty for a foul on Aguero he didn't give.

You don't get much at Stoke. He made decisions for and against us.

We're no cheats though. Whereas if you watch the way Chelsea play the game, I have never seen anything like it. It's completely unacceptable that referee are put under pressure like that. Mourinho is getting away with far more than Ferguson and Man Utd ever did
 
Fair ref really last night, but mostly through a few wrong decisions. They should have had a pen and i thought the Mangala nudge on Diouff was a goal scoring opportunity foul outside the box. I thought the Kun pen looked more of a pen that wasn't given than Silva's that was and i thought they should have had a few players booked that weren't.
 
de niro said:
No pen for Jimmy, hit his thigh. Aguero had a nailed on pen not given. Silva was a pen....just.
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I possibly had an "advantage" on you insomuch as I watched the game on telly, with replay. At first glance, I called for a penalty too but on viewing the replay it would've been very harsh.
What did pleasantly surprise me was that Mason didn't give Kun a second yellow for diving (not that it was a dive but Mason has form).
To be fair, Mason was alright on the big calls, last night. It was his linesman who harshly flagged for handball, remember. In general play, it was 63 mins before we got a free in midfield and I'll bet the statistics have us at double or treble the amount of fouls conceded. So not exactly a redemption from Mason but an improvement.
 
Marvin said:
wolfie1988 said:
I'm still not convinced the referee or linesman saw Aguero's handball for the disallowed goal. No flag waving for from the liner. He just ran back to half way. The referee gave the goal too until he was hounded by Stoke players.

It was the correct decision but i'm not sure either of them saw it
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He also gave us the penalty on Silva which for me was a dive. There was a blatant penalty for a foul on Aguero he didn't give.

You don't get much at Stoke. He made decisions for and against us.

We're no cheats though. Whereas if you watch the way Chelsea play the game, I have never seen anything like it. It's completely unacceptable that referee are put under pressure like that. Mourinho is getting away with far more than Ferguson and Man Utd ever did
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The one on Silva was a pen all day long. Yes, he exaggerated the contact, but every player does that and he was still pulled back. Aguero's was a pen without a shadow of a doubt.

I agree with Wolfie about the Aguero handball. Right decision, but who gave it? Neither the ref or the linesman saw it, so why was it flagged for handball?
 
I thought it was 50/50. Silva went in on the defender. Defender didn't go down as he thought he was favourite, lost the ball, and then as soon as the defender touched Silva he went down. It's what Hazard, Ronaldo etc do. Aguero doesn't do that. Silva forced the ref to give it.

It's rare we get decisions so I'm not complaining but I would have been if I was a Stoke fan of the defender. Ref should have given the Aguero pen, and couldn't really turn us down again.
 
Marvin said:
I thought it was 50/50. Silva went in on the defender. Defender didn't go down as he thought he was favourite, lost the ball, and then as soon as the defender touched Silva he went down. It's what Hazard, Ronaldo etc do. Aguero doesn't do that. Silva forced the ref to give it.

It's rare we get decisions so I'm not complaining but I would have been if I was a Stoke fan of the defender. Ref should have given the Aguero pen, and couldn't really turn us down again.
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I've watched it this morning
last night i was right behind the goal and the incident was really close up

the defender put his arm round Silva's neck for a brief moment that isn't seen on TV, it was a penalty
 
I don’t understand the Aguero handball to be honest. Yes it hits his hand after his head but it wasn’t like the ball was off target and by hitting his hand he has affected it’s path and lead to a goal. It is also completely unintentional, he’s headed it and it is going in to the net so it is not in his interest any way what so ever to purposely handball it over the line.

I thought it was very harsh to disallow the goal with the above in mind, I then found it outrageous to be booked for a deliberate handball (that wasn’t deliberate) anywhere else on the pitch a handball is given like that the player isn’t booked, if they was for every handball we would be playing 8 a side.

With the ref I didn’t think he was too bad, Milner one was debatable but I thought it was agreed that if a ball hits a body part then instantly flicks up to a hand it’s not a penalty? After we got robbed with Richards at Anfield that is.
 
Seemed to be taking such a one man vendetta against Silva in the first half that I was astonished he awarded the penalty.
 
Marvin said:
There was a blatant penalty for a foul on Aguero he didn't give.
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It's getting worrying how few decisions Sergio gets. I don't think he is a diver at all but he is getting treated like one by refs both domestically and in Europe.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
I don’t understand the Aguero handball to be honest. Yes it hits his hand after his head but it wasn’t like the ball was off target and by hitting his hand he has affected it’s path and lead to a goal. It is also completely unintentional, he’s headed it and it is going in to the net so it is not in his interest any way what so ever to purposely handball it over the line.

I thought it was very harsh to disallow the goal with the above in mind, I then found it outrageous to be booked for a deliberate handball (that wasn’t deliberate) anywhere else on the pitch a handball is given like that the player isn’t booked, if they was for every handball we would be playing 8 a side.

With the ref I didn’t think he was too bad, Milner one was debatable but I thought it was agreed that if a ball hits a body part then instantly flicks up to a hand it’s not a penalty? After we got robbed with Richards at Anfield that is.
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Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player "handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)". Why Would you handle the ball deliberately if it was going into goal off your head?
 
jonmcity said:
Tom_mcfc said:
I don’t understand the Aguero handball to be honest. Yes it hits his hand after his head but it wasn’t like the ball was off target and by hitting his hand he has affected it’s path and lead to a goal. It is also completely unintentional, he’s headed it and it is going in to the net so it is not in his interest any way what so ever to purposely handball it over the line.

I thought it was very harsh to disallow the goal with the above in mind, I then found it outrageous to be booked for a deliberate handball (that wasn’t deliberate) anywhere else on the pitch a handball is given like that the player isn’t booked, if they was for every handball we would be playing 8 a side.

With the ref I didn’t think he was too bad, Milner one was debatable but I thought it was agreed that if a ball hits a body part then instantly flicks up to a hand it’s not a penalty? After we got robbed with Richards at Anfield that is.
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Law 12 says a free-kick or penalty will be awarded if a player "handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)". Why Would you handle the ball deliberately if it was going into goal off your head?
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My point exactly, strange or what esp when it seemed both officials was guessing
 
ell said:
Correct decision for the goal for me, no idea why Serg felt the need to handball it though
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I wouldn't assume he did it deliberately. Only he knows and I think it is debateable having watched it, easily as much chance it was accidental as deliberate IMO.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
Tom_mcfc said:
ell said:
Correct decision for the goal for me, no idea why Serg felt the need to handball it though
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Maybe because he didn't do it on purpose?
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He's not got enough on the header and hasn't taken the chance of it going wide.
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It's clearly going in the net before it hits his hand
 
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