Lee Mason

MATCITY said:
Tom_mcfc said:
ell said:
Correct decision for the goal for me, no idea why Serg felt the need to handball it though

Maybe because he didn't do it on purpose?
If it was one of their players who had done that in their box I would expect a penalty

I think it was more of a reflex action as opposed to something that could be termed as either deliberate or accidental. A bit like spilling a catch at cricket, but snatching at the rebound rather than taking. your time and composing yourself.
The ball appears to be spinning and it looks to me as though Aguero panics because his header veers off at an angle. He should have left it alone, but his natural reflex took a grip.

Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
 
chicagoblues said:
Why no age and fitness restriction for officials ?

There no age restrictions anymore due to European Legislation. (FIFA are not restricted by this legislation due to being in Switzerland.) There is a fitness test and they need to pass this. If they fail it then no games until they do. This applies to all ages. Test for PL Referees is 6 x 40m sprints in 6 seconds or less with 90 seconds recovery between each sprint. If you fail 1 sprint for any reason, slip, trip, fall etc, you get a 7th attempt. Then 10-15 min rest and then run 150m in 30 seconds followed by 50m walk in 35 seconds. Repeat this 20 times i.e. 10 laps of an athletics track. You may not start the next section ahead of time and you can only fail one section or you fail the test.
 
stony said:
Chippy_boy said:
Ric said:
A few dubious calls either way, but nowhere near as bad as he has been when reffing us in the past. As with Clattenburg a few weeks ago, I'm all for slating them when they're bad but they deserve credit when they're OK. Still hate him, mind you.

I don't think he had a great game. He just didn't shit on us as much as usual. FWIW I think Silva dived for the penalty, but I am not complaining.

He certainly exaggerated the contact, but he was pulled back and it was a penalty.

Same as Aguero's SHOULD have been.
 
Palace84 said:
chicagoblues said:
Why no age and fitness restriction for officials ?

There no age restrictions anymore due to European Legislation. (FIFA are not restricted by this legislation due to being in Switzerland.) There is a fitness test and they need to pass this. If they fail it then no games until they do. This applies to all ages. Test for PL Referees is 6 x 40m sprints in 6 seconds or less with 90 seconds recovery between each sprint. If you fail 1 sprint for any reason, slip, trip, fall etc, you get a 7th attempt. Then 10-15 min rest and then run 150m in 30 seconds followed by 50m walk in 35 seconds. Repeat this 20 times i.e. 10 laps of an athletics track. You may not start the next section ahead of time and you can only fail one section or you fail the test.

Fucking so unfair, when a ref could beat Kolarov on any of the above races !!!
 
squirtyflower said:
Marvin said:
I thought it was 50/50. Silva went in on the defender. Defender didn't go down as he thought he was favourite, lost the ball, and then as soon as the defender touched Silva he went down. It's what Hazard, Ronaldo etc do. Aguero doesn't do that. Silva forced the ref to give it.

It's rare we get decisions so I'm not complaining but I would have been if I was a Stoke fan of the defender. Ref should have given the Aguero pen, and couldn't really turn us down again.
I've watched it this morning
last night i was right behind the goal and the incident was really close up

the defender put his arm round Silva's neck for a brief moment that isn't seen on TV, it was a penalty

it was a foul so therefore a peno. but in general, in sitautions like that - I think players who go down like that should also be booked because they don't have to go down -> they dive in my eyes.
 
We were behind the goal last night and it looked like Sergio mishit the ball even kicked that shit pitch before contact from the defender hence why I think he never got the penalty. Not had benefit of replay as weren't back in time for MOTD.
 
They could have arguably had at least one pen too so it was both sides.

The handball from the camera right behind him looks like he knew what he was doing.mi suppose we will never know.
 
Stoke foul count last 3 games, 17, 11, 14.
At home to City they gave away 6 fouls only. Bit low for a Stoke team or another case of referee not blowing up for fouls by opposition
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
Except the lino initially went with "goal" and headed for the half way line, and Mason blew for a goal, so we have no idea who decided it wasn't a goal, other than the Stoke defenders, and the keeper initially seemed to be bollocking his defence too.
 
cleavers said:
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
Except the lino initially went with "goal" and headed for the half way line, and Mason blew for a goal, so we have no idea who decided it wasn't a goal, other than the Stoke defenders, and the keeper initially seemed to be bollocking his defence too.

It smells very much like someone had a word over the headset.
 
stony said:
cleavers said:
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
Except the lino initially went with "goal" and headed for the half way line, and Mason blew for a goal, so we have no idea who decided it wasn't a goal, other than the Stoke defenders, and the keeper initially seemed to be bollocking his defence too.

It smells very much like someone had a word over the headset.
You're paranoid stony. We know that couldn't happen as the 4th official doesn't have access to TV replays.

;-)
 
cleavers said:
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
Except the lino initially went with "goal" and headed for the half way line, and Mason blew for a goal, so we have no idea who decided it wasn't a goal, other than the Stoke defenders, and the keeper initially seemed to be bollocking his defence too.

That only leaves the fourth official, now I've got no problem with that as long as it's done consistently which we all know it won't.
 
hertsblue said:
Stoke foul count last 3 games, 17, 11, 14.
At home to City they gave away 6 fouls only. Bit low for a Stoke team or another case of referee not blowing up for fouls by opposition

This is always the case, every single match. Our fouls are called and the oppo's go begging, one way or the other. The foul on Sergiooooooo before he got up, ran the length of their half and scored, was one that hasn't troubled the statisticians. But the foul count for and against over the last few seasons has been laughable.
 
inchy14 said:
cleavers said:
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Unfortunately from the Linesman's view, Aguero’s hands were too high for it to be deemed accidental
Except the lino initially went with "goal" and headed for the half way line, and Mason blew for a goal, so we have no idea who decided it wasn't a goal, other than the Stoke defenders, and the keeper initially seemed to be bollocking his defence too.

That only leaves the fourth official, now I've got no problem with that as long as it's done consistently which we all know it won't.

I think having won the game as we did, it was probably good for us and for Sergio that this got disallowed (rightly). The shit storm this would have created had it been allowed would have been horrendous.
 
Tom_mcfc said:
mrtwiceaseason said:
Tom_mcfc said:
Maybe because he didn't do it on purpose?
He's not got enough on the header and hasn't taken the chance of it going wide.

It's clearly going in the net before it hits his hand

Ooh, I dunno about that. I've watched it a fair few times now and it's not clear to me that it's going in. Might have just sneaked in or hit the post. I think Sergio knows he hadn't quite got enough on it, his hand's up there and he takes the chance on diverting it in, maybe instinctively, but hoping it's not noticed. It's not in his nature to cheat, and he'd have sullied his reputation as an honest player if the goal had been allowed, but sometimes in the heat of the moment it's just too tempting.
 

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