Anyone blaming Ederson is deluded, the guy must be gutted with the defending of this team in front of him.
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Leicester City (H) Post Match Thread
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Damanino said:
Pep mentioned multiple time how anxious and nervous the players got.
2nd league game, we play at home, vs Leicester City, and players get extremely anxious/nervous even after dominating possession for 30 minutes and Leicester not creating any kind of chance until the first pen.
Something is fucking wrong with the mentality if seasoned pros get so nervous in a game like this.
Imagine how nervous they might have been vs Lyon where stakes were so much higher than in latest game. How nervous
Pep must have been t change his tactics completely for Lyon and have it backfired...
They should be fearless lions or sharks not nervous dogs.
They dont know what to do on the pitch , how to break down defences that dont give us easy chances, they absolutely dont know how to defend counters from to front, not mentioning at the back while midfield is bypassed pretty much like hot knife through the butter, this makes them anxious and nervous.
Opponents get a feeling for our anxious play and that makes them even more determined to punish us and they do it a lot.
This is a mentality thing that stems from our tactics imo. Very risky high line defence with wrong personnel and shit pressing with players not working hard enough or with players not enough pace. Recipe for a disaster really. Players get nervous middle of game. This is not a one off...
Honestly if things wont change tactically I expect more of the same losses, not losing 5-2, but losing with very same pattern in terms of issues on midfield, creating/converting clear chances and conceding 2 goals from every 3 shots conceded (that are on target) on average.
Putting Ruben Dias in CB can change it a bit and help a bit (unless he needs a full first season to adapt to new tactics, new country, new league, which happens to many of our signings) but it wont solve midfield issues and other off the ball issues, defending from the front etc.
If anyone doubted how serious things are , go and watch Joseph Pep Guardiola's first pre match press conference of the season.
The man was broken, flat, depressed and looked totally disinterested, he was a train wreck.
The team yesterday was a carbon copy of their manager.
I was derided on here for saying the Lyon defeat had done massive damage to the dressing room.
Well I stand by every word I said about that night.
The manor of that defeat was the end of Pep's time with us. Appealing team selection, appaling tactics and a terrible defeat to a team we should be destroying.He lost the dressing room that night and he will never get it back to the levels of 2 seasons ago.
Pep mentioned multiple time how anxious and nervous the players got.
2nd league game, we play at home, vs Leicester City, and players get extremely anxious/nervous even after dominating possession for 30 minutes and Leicester not creating any kind of chance until the first pen.
Something is fucking wrong with the mentality if seasoned pros get so nervous in a game like this.
Imagine how nervous they might have been vs Lyon where stakes were so much higher than in latest game. How nervous
Pep must have been t change his tactics completely for Lyon and have it backfired...
They should be fearless lions or sharks not nervous dogs.
They dont know what to do on the pitch , how to break down defences that dont give us easy chances, they absolutely dont know how to defend counters from to front, not mentioning at the back while midfield is bypassed pretty much like hot knife through the butter, this makes them anxious and nervous.
Opponents get a feeling for our anxious play and that makes them even more determined to punish us and they do it a lot.
This is a mentality thing that stems from our tactics imo. Very risky high line defence with wrong personnel and shit pressing with players not working hard enough or with players not enough pace. Recipe for a disaster really. Players get nervous middle of game. This is not a one off...
Honestly if things wont change tactically I expect more of the same losses, not losing 5-2, but losing with very same pattern in terms of issues on midfield, creating/converting clear chances and conceding 2 goals from every 3 shots conceded (that are on target) on average.
Putting Ruben Dias in CB can change it a bit and help a bit (unless he needs a full first season to adapt to new tactics, new country, new league, which happens to many of our signings) but it wont solve midfield issues and other off the ball issues, defending from the front etc.
If anyone doubted how serious things are , go and watch Joseph Pep Guardiola's first pre match press conference of the season.
The man was broken, flat, depressed and looked totally disinterested, he was a train wreck.
The team yesterday was a carbon copy of their manager.
I was derided on here for saying the Lyon defeat had done massive damage to the dressing room.
Well I stand by every word I said about that night.
The manor of that defeat was the end of Pep's time with us. Appealing team selection, appaling tactics and a terrible defeat to a team we should be destroying.He lost the dressing room that night and he will never get it back to the levels of 2 seasons ago.
GOULDYBOBS
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Two passes and a ball over the top and teams are in behind
The problems at this club start at the top of the footballing operations, Tixki , Ferran and Pep.
All 3 Barca men, all outstanding at Barca and were to start with us. The game has changed rapidly in the last couple of seasons, pace, stamina, athleticism and style of play.
We have not evolved with it, Pep is stuck with his footballing principles, as noble as they are, they are holding us back.
His arrogance has no bounds, 12 months ago we suffered a terrible defeat to Norwich, a poor team who simply showed the rest how easy it was to beat us. The rest followed , let us have the ball, rack up ridiculous possession stats, only for then to hit us on the break and score easily. 12 months later and the "world's greatest football manager" is still making the same mistakes.
The director of football, still living off the remains on Hughes and Mancini's spine, that served this club magnificently, KDB apart we simply have failed to replace that spine with like for like quality players. We have spent 18 months looking for a CB, we have spent 100s of millions on poor full backs, have watched Aguero getting older and not looked at a long term replacement.
The CEO, Ferran cares more for his CFG baby than MCFC, time for him to move over to run the CFG full time and bring in a full time Manchester City CEO.
This club has gone and is going backwards quickly, either Pep signs up to rebuild this club over the next 3 years, or the club have to say adios and thank you.
Well summarised , if we think this game plan with the squad we have will stack up again we are in self denial.
All that will happen is the poundings will continue more frequently and we will have conceded more goals by Christmas than we did in title winning years.
Leeds will score a hatful if we defend like that again and we will already be 6 points off the pace mathematically 9.
Matt the Giant
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Can someone please explain to me, why the game changed as it did after around 30 minutes. Up until then we were fully dominant and in control, had a one goal lead. Leicester were defending with the entire team deep in their own half, Vardy was positioned like pretty much as a midfielder, and they looked like they were out classed... but then it changed.
Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?
It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.
Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?
It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.
Jurgen Klopp who gets slaughtered on here has evolved his game plan to suit the league and his players. In the early part of his dippers career his team ran out of steam during a game and they suffered. What did he do? Evolve, 3 pacey forwards and a hard working athletic midfield, often they bypass the midfield, so what! it works, it gets results, it won them a title and a Champs league.Well summarised , if we think this game plan with the squad we have will stack up again we are in self denial.
All that will happen is the poundings will continue more frequently and we will have conceded more goals by Christmas than we did in title winning years.
Leeds will score a hatful if we defend like that again and we will already be 6 points off the pace mathematically 9.
Football evolves, great managers and coaches have to evolve, if they don't their time is over.
Jose, Venger once the best but stuck in their ways and no longer the best. I don't want to add Pep to that list but unless he changes quickly, he will be joining them.
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Cheeky Txiki
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Completely true. As soon as everyone knew we were in for Messi and had insane cash to spend, negotiations got difficult. ADL wanted more, Sevilla wanted more. On top of that, Txiki would rather have a victory over ADL than get our main transfer done before the league started. Napoli are yet to concede in their league by the way, so I don't think ADL gives a rat's ass. Pep also needs to put forth his decision quickly, we can't be in a 'transition season' with no idea of the manager's long term future. Nagelsmann has hinted of wanting here, and if Pep doesn't say whether he is with us for the long run, let's start our pursuit of Nagelsmann.The pursuit of Messi this summer was a joke.
Saddleworth2
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We stopped running and our press was piss poor. Leicester just started to play a little. You didn’t have to be particularly good to beat us yesterday. What other team can you remember conceding 3 penalties. Peps demeanour the whole of this season has been piss poor. It certainly won’t inspire the squad.Can someone please explain to me, why the game changed as it did after around 30 minutes. Up until then we were fully dominant and in control, had a one goal lead. Leicester were defending with the entire team deep in their own half, Vardy was positioned like pretty much as a midfielder, and they looked like they were out classed... but then it changed.
Was it Brenda who made some tactical changes, which,if so?
And had Pep no counter change to make?
Was it our squad who got tired after only half an hour?
It amazes me how a game can change so drastically. Sure, it's a huge part of what makes it such a great sport to watch, but this is a bit too much. With their first goal we looked defeated, almost like we gave up.
Not pretty to watch.
baggy
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Pep promised that we would get better year on year. We've actually gone backwards since we last won the league. Love pep but we seem to get done very easily by one style of play of which we haven't resolved in 18+ months. On yesterday's evidence this season will go exactly the same as last.
Pep either has to commit now or we need to have a succession plan so someone can take over. If Liverpool win today vs Arsenal they will already be ahead.
Also, while it has been obvious for a while, but we don't have a leader on the pitch since Vinny left... Yes kdb and fernandinho are there... But they just don't give that vibe
Supposedly Dias is a leader, so let's hopw he steps up.
Apart from Dias, Aouor and A LB are must but am not sure if we are getting anyone.
Let's hope Txiki and Pep wake up.
Also, while it has been obvious for a while, but we don't have a leader on the pitch since Vinny left... Yes kdb and fernandinho are there... But they just don't give that vibe
Supposedly Dias is a leader, so let's hopw he steps up.
Apart from Dias, Aouor and A LB are must but am not sure if we are getting anyone.
Let's hope Txiki and Pep wake up.