Leroy Sane - 2018/2019 performances

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It was all of them, or are you just on a big wind up

I disagree with you, it seems most do.

It was excatly this. "commits in a reckless manner a direct free kick offence".
A yellow card.

But, yes simply because I disagree with you, the laws of the game disagree with you, then yes I'm wearing the blue tinted specs.
The answer and reasoning I'd expect when someone has no real argument.

As I've said in this thread, Kompany should/could have have gone. St slight odds to your notion that I'm viewing this through blue tinted specs.
 
It isn't the very definition of violent conduct though.

"Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made."

Even if you did consider it 'excessive force' or 'brutality' he was well within the vicinity of the ball.
Right there in the middle of your own definition is exactly what Sane did.
 
I actually came on here to see if anyone else thought as I did about Leroy’s petulance and over the top challenge and am heartened to find other blues think it was a stupid and reckless action. Having sustained serious injury from a tackle similar to the one he put in (calculated and targeted), I will never be a fan of that sort of play regardless of the level of physicality we suppose ought to be allowed in the top leagues. For me, that sort of action is always beyond the laws and spirit of the game, no matter if you are a City player.

Perhaps it would help settle things down, though, if we all agree it was an “orange” card: one of those challenges that may not be an outright red but, upon closer inspection, was not just a yellow either. It is a challenge that precariously straddles the line between common booking and sending off. I have always advocated for a sin bin (10 minute benching, team playing a man down) for challenges like that, as an intermediate punishment between yellow and red for this and other reasons.

I will also say this, even though it will likely not be popular: I really like Leroy, and want him to become one of the best players in the world at City, but this is not the first time his acted out in this way and I think eventually he *should* receive a red and violent conduct ban, for no other reason then to demonstrate directly that there are consequences to him and the team for this behaviour. That is sometimes the only way a younger person will learn (telling them often has no real impact on their decision-making).

I know for certain Pep and the management team will not have been happy seeing Leroy act in that way and will undoubtedly have a word. Our club prides itself in not only being the best but maintaining a reputation for stylish, professional, “good” play, and those sort of actions, if repeated consistently, will tarnish that image (and make us look petulant by association). I think of the aftermath of Aguero’s and Dinho’s clashes with David Luiz, however justified we may think they were. The club most definitely dealt with it internally and ensured the players knew that those sort of negative actions—and the widespread subsequent coverage of them—would not be tolerated.
 
I would normally respect the idea of not engaging in conversation but are you serious with this? You can't be surely?

Mane on Ederson was sprint full tilt and is literally flying through the air with his leading leg SIX FEET off the floor and his 'standing' leg' three feet off the floor.

Sané is running behind Lawton and aggressively trips him from behind.
So a slide tackle from behind. With 2 feet scissoring the opponent.

But not a red card offense coz he knew what he was doing? Okie doke
 
I disagree with you, it seems most do.

It was excatly this. "commits in a reckless manner a direct free kick offence".
A yellow card.

But, yes simply because I disagree with you, the laws of the game disagree with you, then yes I'm wearing the blue tinted specs.
The answer and reasoning I'd expect when someone has no real argument.

As I've said in this thread, Kompany should/could have have gone. St slight odds to your notion that I'm viewing this through blue tinted specs.


Seems not. Anyway, BM doesn't want to see 2 blues stealing the thread so lets leave it be. I know for sure though that if it were any of our players on the receiving end of such a tackle, most would be screaming red, including you hadn't you nailed your colours to the mast already

Anyway, lets simply agree to disagree and look forward to Tuesday
 
So a slide tackle from behind. With 2 feet scissoring the opponent.

But not a red card offense coz he knew what he was doing? Okie doke

Don't know what you mean. You've made up a hypothetical. Pointless really.
 
So a slide tackle from behind. With 2 feet scissoring the opponent.

But not a red card offense coz he knew what he was doing? Okie doke

It was more side on than from behind and for it to be a red card it's two feet up or him leaving the ground. Neither was the case.
 
I actually came on here to see if anyone else thought as I did about Leroy’s petulance and over the top challenge and am heartened to find other blues think it was a stupid and reckless action. Having sustained serious injury from a tackle similar to the one he put in (calculated and targeted), I will never be a fan of that sort of play regardless of the level of physicality we suppose ought to be allowed in the top leagues. For me, that sort of action is always beyond the laws and spirit of the game, no matter if you are a City player.

Perhaps it would help settle things down, though, if we all agree it was an “orange” card: one of those challenges that may not be an outright red but, upon closer inspection, was not just a yellow either. It is a challenge that precariously straddles the line between common booking and sending off. I have always advocated for a sin bin (10 minute benching, team playing a man down) for challenges like that, as an intermediate punishment between yellow and red for this and other reasons.

I will also say this, even though it will likely not be popular: I really like Leroy, and want him to become one of the best players in the world at City, but this is not the first time his acted out in this way and I think eventually he *should* receive a red and violent conduct ban, for no other reason then to demonstrate directly that there are consequences to him and the team for this behaviour. That is sometimes the only way a younger person will learn (telling them often has no real impact on their decision-making).

I know for certain Pep and the management team will not have been happy seeing Leroy act in that way and will undoubtedly have a word. Our club prides itself in not only being the best but maintaining a reputation for stylish, professional, “good” play, and those sort of actions, if repeated consistently, will tarnish that image (and make us look petulant by association). I think of the aftermath of Aguero’s and Dinho’s clashes with David Luiz, however justified we may think they were. The club most definitely dealt with it internally and ensured the players knew that those sort of negative actions—and the widespread subsequent coverage of them—would not be tolerated.
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