FantasyIreland
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Feel better now hun?
Neville Kneville said:FantasyIreland said:Neville Kneville said:But if we really do chuck out one of the best defenders in the country just because we have a kid who may be a bit more mobile, well it's utter fucking madness.
'A bit more mobile' ?? yep,similar to how a ferrari is a bit faster than a skoda........
Lescott is a very good defender but he has rightly lost his place to Nasty.
You fucking people who think you are such smartarses when it comes to football, make me piss.
I'm not some kind of clueless fucking philistine who doesn't understand how it all works, I fully understand the thinking behind it, I'm just not a fucking sheep who blindly agrees with it without question.
There are very few clubs who can replace title winning cb pairings with 21 year old kids & get away with it. If you asked VK who he would rather work with, I recon he would say Lescott.
Nastasic is a promising young cb who may have a big future, I hope he does. I hope he pisses all over Lescott next season & is thebest cb in the world. But I've seen fucking loads of them & some better than him, who haven't done that. The modern game allows for less physical & more techinical players TO A POINT. It's not an exact science & yet you people pretend you know for sure that it is.
You are so arrogant & basically full of fucking shit .
I'll ask you fucking smartarses this question. Have you EVER known a young player who DIDN'T have a serious dip in form ?
So if we fuck Lescott off & it happens to Nastasic...?
Morons.
FantasyIreland said:You have cherry picked his signings according to hindsight........
Let me do similar.........
Given,Tevez,Lescott and Barry were superb signings,Zaba,DJ and Kompany likewise,although time was indeed a factor with the latter,they were excellent players at their respective former clubs so,while it may have contributed,i'm not solely attributing managerial genius to their transformation.
Hart was rightly understudy to the more experienced and,at the time,talented Given.
The Brum loan developed his confidence and game and he rightly took the jersey when,credit to him, Mancini recognised his potential and ability.
I cant deny Mancini has certainly gotten more out of our players,especially in terms of organisation and discipline,however,the fact remains,he inherited an excellent group of players at a club that clearly had incredible ambition,and subsequently,he was then given an open cheque book to compliment them.
You said that in January 2009, he was actually voted Premier League goalkeeper of the season little more than a year after that statement.FantasyIreland said:How the fvck is it Hughes' fault that Fernandes,Vassell,Ball,Richards,Dunne,Hart,Hamman,Caceido,Jo,Elano etc are all shite and not upto it.
MH has played the best players at his disposal and unfortunately they are simply not good enough.The players he has brought in have been a success,he will bring more with similar ability that will also enhance the team.
So get off his back and blame those responsible - the players!
One question - Do you think Bellamy would have displayed the same couldn't give a shite attitude that 3/4 of our team have today? would he fvck and thats why we need him.
Get a grip people
A little disconcerting. It's been said numerous times before that in Mancini's eyes players don't even exist if they're not playing, but it's a side to his personality that I really wish he'd consider changing. There's no doubt he's a decent football manager, but just imagine how good he could be if he softened his approach a bit in this respect. I can only see upsides to doing this, so I'm puzzled as to why he remains so stubborn.“I wasn’t [originally] in the last squad for San Marino and Montenegro and Roy called to explain, a personal touch that I appreciated. Roy’s really good. It’s different than at the club, and previously with Fabio Capello when stuff wasn’t explained. It’s explained now.............
Mancini rarely communicates his reasons. “He might see me as someone who’s not going to cause problems. Maybe he feels he doesn’t need to explain because I’m experienced enough to understand how things work. Even though now and again I’d like to be explained to, he’s got to manage the whole squad.’’
i have to admit that is also my only concern about himDubai Blue said:A little disconcerting. It's been said numerous times before that in Mancini's eyes players don't even exist if they're not playing, but it's a side to his personality that I really wish he'd consider changing. There's no doubt he's a decent football manager, but just imagine how good he could be if he softened his approach a bit in this respect. I can only see upsides to doing this, so I'm puzzled as to why he remains so stubborn.“I wasn’t [originally] in the last squad for San Marino and Montenegro and Roy called to explain, a personal touch that I appreciated. Roy’s really good. It’s different than at the club, and previously with Fabio Capello when stuff wasn’t explained. It’s explained now.............
Mancini rarely communicates his reasons. “He might see me as someone who’s not going to cause problems. Maybe he feels he doesn’t need to explain because I’m experienced enough to understand how things work. Even though now and again I’d like to be explained to, he’s got to manage the whole squad.’’
If only it was that simple!CTID101 said:I say let them both go and bring in a player of similar ilk to Nastasic.
RandomJ said:Neville Kneville said:FantasyIreland said:'A bit more mobile' ?? yep,similar to how a ferrari is a bit faster than a skoda........
Lescott is a very good defender but he has rightly lost his place to Nasty.
You fucking people who think you are such smartarses when it comes to football, make me piss.
I'm not some kind of clueless fucking philistine who doesn't understand how it all works, I fully understand the thinking behind it, I'm just not a fucking sheep who blindly agrees with it without question.
There are very few clubs who can replace title winning cb pairings with 21 year old kids & get away with it. If you asked VK who he would rather work with, I recon he would say Lescott.
Nastasic is a promising young cb who may have a big future, I hope he does. I hope he pisses all over Lescott next season & is thebest cb in the world. But I've seen fucking loads of them & some better than him, who haven't done that. The modern game allows for less physical & more techinical players TO A POINT. It's not an exact science & yet you people pretend you know for sure that it is.
You are so arrogant & basically full of fucking shit .
I'll ask you fucking smartarses this question. Have you EVER known a young player who DIDN'T have a serious dip in form ?
So if we fuck Lescott off & it happens to Nastasic...?
Morons.
Wow... I think you'll find that Kompany would much prefer being partnered with Nasty because then he doesn't have to worry about covering for Lescotts atrocious positioning and other mistakes. No one is claiming Nasty to be the finished article but he is far superior to Lescott in every single department besides in the air which he does need to work on.
Lescott has been a great player for us but he panics on the ball and makes quite a few mistakes and is very slow. In an ideal world we should keep hold of Lescott as cover but I don't blame him wanting first team football as he is nearing the end of his career and if that's the case I'm sure we will look at signing suitable backup for CB.