ToffeeAndy
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mcfc1632 said:ToffeeAndy said:Hmm i'm not sure 5 times more is likely... probs double his current salary. Also an extra £40k a week to a football is probs the equivalent of a couple of grand to me. thats the point I was making and I think you probs took me a bit to literally.
I'm not saying every player at City gets treated like Jo, but if Lescott did ask him about City you can gaurantee he wouldn't be complimentary. I hadn't thought about the other players people mentioned tho so they have a valid point... I still think my point is valid though as well.
The family atmosphere I was referring to was "in camp" rather then the atmosphere at games. Everyone at our club gets on great and we have a fantastic team spirit. No-one can deny that and if they do then they are majorly wrong.
Fletcher wouldn't get in Watfords team?!!!! Yet he played in the Champions League Semi Final for Man United?!!! Oh my god!!! Funniest thing i've ever ever read without a doubt!
I think i'll take SAF's opinion of a player over yours if that ok lol!
You seem like a reasonable bloke and quite knowledgeable and fair-minded about football.
Just a couple of thoughts – and I know I am of course biased because by hatred about all things scum is only just behind my love of CITY.
But whilst I recognise the issue of ‘will the players gel’ – Hughes has sensibly got most of his dealings done early and we have the opportunity for a good pre-season for most of them to be worked into a unit – so whilst this alone will not resolve the issue – it will at least help. He has also gone for a certain ‘type’ of player – work-rate – prem experience – etc and this will also help – I particularly think the Tevez and Barry will be immense and if Lescott joins (perhaps Terry) these are not player that will need months to settle in.
Now look at scum (sorry cannot call them anything else) – I really really know the results – and they speak for themselves – but I do think that at this time they look fragile in a number of areas and they have (INO) ‘got away with it’ in a lot of games last season – often down to the efforts of Tranny and Tevez.
If you just put up their 1st 11 – and their 2nd 11 and compare them to that likely to be CITY’s at the end of August – it makes interesting analysis:
They are weak at RB – they are weak at DM – they are weak in creative MF – they have 2 quality strikers – but they are weak in back up – they have 2 quality CBs – but they are weak in back up
They have lost a lot of the ‘invincibility aura’ and I think a lot of teams will have a go where in the past they have overly-defended which has been to the benefit of the scum – I just think that they are not strong this year and:
a) Players that are real ‘quality’ are few – E.g. Rooney, Vidic
b) Players that are average but have got away with being in a overall good team will be found out – e.g. O’Shea and Fletcher
c) Players that are getting ‘beyond it’ will be exposed – e.g. Scholes, Giggs
d) Players that are unproven and perhaps not good enough will be asked to do too much, e.g. Rafael, Valencia, Nani, Evans
I just think that this year they could slip – and once the ‘invincibility aura’ is blown away the slide could last a few years – ‘cos they no longer have the financial position to just go and get the best players
Yeah – I know I am biased – but....
And just a small favour to ask of you – do not expect you to share my hatred for the scum – but please you do not have to call Mr Ferguson – gergiescum, baconface, whisky chops or anything else derogatory – Manu manager will do – but please –just for my sensitivities – please do not use SAF – unless you mean ‘Some Arrogant Fucker’
Haha sorry i'll refer to him as old saggy face from now on!
You've mad some really good points. They defo seem to be a team in a transitional state at the moment and will definately not be the team they were in this or in previous seasons.
I'm not sure how it'll go to be honest. In a good team unit you can take out one or two important peices and the unit will still perform admirably. Can Manure (thought you'd appreciate that one) cope in this way? Probably not but old saggy face is a master of switching his formations and tactics to suit the players he has at his disposal. I think next year will be closer then ever at the top though and so for that reason I hope they do suffer and it gives someone else (as long as its not liverpool) the title for a change.
Your right about the player Hughes has brought in. I have some question marks over players like RSC who missed a lot of the season through injury and only has one decent year in the premier league, but City do have a very good 1st team now. I think Hughes has done everything he can to build a team that will gel, but it'll still take time and he's still not secured the most important signing yet which is at least one top quality CB. If he gets 2 CB's and adds that to the rest it really is a lot of new players to gel in to the team regardless of their premier league experience.
I think hughes is a realist tho, i'd imagine he's aiming for top 5 or 6 this season, top 4 the season after. Its do-able thats for sure and it'll be interesting watching what happens