Lescott [Merged]

[BringBackSwales]

Ok, two points, firstly we HAVEN'T missed out on Lescott, not at this point anyway.

Secondly, don't you think it kind of sums up the direction both our clubs are heading in, and which has the better potential, that we've tried and failed to sign Kaka, Eto'o and Terry whereas Everton have tried, and failed, to sign Kyle Naughton?

You have missed out on Lescott you bufoon! You'd need to be on crack to believe Moyes would sell him now.

Well in that case IF he does sign for us this window will you promise to do 3 things (1) apologise to the Manchester City fan you just called a buffoon (2) admit that you are a buffoon (3) immediately write to moyes telling him he is on crack (and will you write the letter a bit fucking quicker than Lescott writes his)?

 

[Matty]

Ok, two points, firstly we HAVEN'T missed out on Lescott, not at this point anyway.

Secondly, don't you think it kind of sums up the direction both our clubs are heading in, and which has the better potential, that we've tried and failed to sign Kaka, Eto'o and Terry whereas Everton have tried, and failed, to sign Kyle Naughton?

You have missed out on Lescott you bufoon! You'd need to be on crack to believe Moyes would sell him now.

No, in your opinion we've missed out on Lescott. It's a fact that we're not signing Eto'o, Kaka or Terrry, two of them have moved to other clubs whereas Terry has stated his desire to remain at Chelsea. Once City announce we've moved on to other targets or Lescott pledges his future to Everton then we've "missed out" on him. Lets not forget that Wayne Rooney was "not for sale" righ up to the point he was sold to United, a clubs protestations about whether a player will or won't be sold are pretty much useless.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Will Lescott join, won't Lescott join? At this point I'm virtually past caring, it's dragged on for so long now I'm bored with the whole thing.

Whatever DSOB or Fellanis Hairdo say though, if it gets to September and Lescott is still an Everton player then he's missed a major step in his career, possibly forever. I'm not just talking financially, although he'll NEVER get the opportunity earn what City would have offered him again in his career, I'm talking professionally from a football perspective. The Evertonians on here argue how Everton currently are, and over the past few seasons have been, better than City on the pitch. Whereas we can argue about currently the past is obvious, they were. Even if I accept Everton are still better than us (which I don't) we're still talking short term, one season. Next season I'd wager good money we'll have a better squad than Everton, and for every subsequent season. We've got the cash to build a Champion's League level squad, Everton quite simply don't.

If Lescott choses to remain at Everton he's chosing to turn his back on a huge wage increase and the very real prospect of regular Champion's League football and challenging for trophies, for me that shows a lack of ambition and makes Lescott a player who wouldn't fit in at City anyway. If Moyes refuses to allow Lescott to join City then Lescott will, quite rightly, be pissed. All the opportunities he would have had being a City player will be gone to him, probably forever as next Summer I would suspect we wouldn't want to get into this saga again. Moyes would have, essentially, put a huge block on Lescott's career, preventing him from achieving what every player ultimately wants, trophies alongside financial gain.

There's no way, whatever the outcome of this transfer saga, Everton come out winners. Even if it's Lescott who doesn't want to leave that puts Everton in the position where they've lost out on £20m, in the short term keeping Lescott might seem like a victory (and I'm sure DSOB and Fellanis Hairdo will present it as such) but in the longer term (and I'm not talking years here, I'm talking months) it will become clear it isn't. Everton are not flush with cash, they are struggling to add players simply because the quality they're after is falling outside their price structure. With £20m they could do what they did with Rooney and use the funds to add several players, without it they are stuck with loan deals and missing out on players to Spurs.

good post mate, very balanced and sensible - and more importantly it is on topic - the thread is about whether Lescott will/should come to City, not about everton fans bigging up their club

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Thats just it though isnt it, Everton can challenge for 5th/6th but thats as good as it gets at Goodison! Yes they have breached the top 4 once a few years back and they may occasionally breach it again every now and again but they will never be regulars in the top 4. City on the other hand have the finances to not only break into the top 4 but also to stay there as well, when City end a season in the top 4 the aim the season after will be to win the league, it wont be to try and finish in the top 4 again like Evertons would be.

People can talk about money all they like, I think it makes them feel better but the fact is City have infinitely more potential than any club in English and quite possibly European and World football and unless you are already at a Champions League club who is challenging for titles and European honours now then for me it is as clear as day that City is the club you want to be at!

LMAO infinitely more potential than United, Real Madrid, Barcelona? I you wonder why the rest of football is looking a city fans and wondering if you are all on drugs!

As others have pointed out on my behalf potential is not something you have NOW, United, Real Madrid and Barcelona already have what we want and have the potential to get.

The point I was making in my post that you ridiculed was that City have the potential given our finances to challenge for the Premier League title and then the Champions League, EVERYONE can see this, Gareth Barry saw it, Tevez saw it, Adebayor saw it, Toure saw it and guess what.......?????? Mr Lescott can see it as well!

On the other hand what realistic potential do Everton have? They have the potential to finish top 6 every season, the potential to break the top 4 every now and again and possibly get to the final of/win a cup or 2! Well they do this now, Everton have not progressed in the past few seasons, they have stalled, you could say they have reached their peak! They do not have the finances to go any further!

So there you have it, people can bleat on about players coming for the money but that is just half of the story, yes we can offer the best wages in World football but we can also offer a future that clubs like your Evertons and your Villas simply can not!

People like yourself believe that the money has made some City fans arrogant, you may be right but what you dont realise is that it has also made many of us sit up and take notice of the fact that without the influx of huge finances we would never have been successful ever again! I have spent the past 30 years watching utter dross but always thinking that 'our day will come', 'every dog has its day' trust me......I WAS WRONG, I was deluded! Its only since the massive cash injection that I have been able to realise that our day was never coming, other than hopefully winning the odd cup sustained success was never coming back to City. Unfortunately for many clubs including your beloved Everton at this moment in time this is the position you find yourselves in and players like Lescott can see this.

 

[Petetheblu]

LMAO infinitely more potential than United, Real Madrid, Barcelona? I you wonder why the rest of football is looking a city fans and wondering if you are all on drugs!

As others have pointed out on my behalf potential is not something you have NOW, United, Real Madrid and Barcelona already have what we want and have the potential to get.

The point I was making in my post that you ridiculed was that City have the potential given our finances to challenge for the Premier League title and then the Champions League, EVERYONE can see this, Gareth Barry saw it, Tevez saw it, Adebayor saw it, Toure saw it and guess what.......?????? Mr Lescott can see it as well!

On the other hand what realistic potential do Everton have? They have the potential to finish top 6 every season, the potential to break the top 4 every now and again and possibly get to the final of/win a cup or 2! Well they do this now, Everton have not progressed in the past few seasons, they have stalled, you could say they have reached their peak! They do not have the finances to go any further!

So there you have it, people can bleat on about players coming for the money but that is just half of the story, yes we can offer the best wages in World football but we can also offer a future that clubs like your Evertons and your Villas simply can not!

People like yourself believe that the money has made some City fans arrogant, you may be right but what you dont realise is that it has also made many of us sit up and take notice of the fact that without the influx of huge finances we would never have been successful ever again! I have spent the past 30 years watching utter dross but always thinking that 'our day will come', 'every dog has its day' trust me......I WAS WRONG, I was deluded! Its only since the massive cash injection that I have been able to realise that our day was never coming, other than hopefully winning the odd cup sustained success was never coming back to City. Unfortunately for many clubs including your beloved Everton at this moment in time this is the position you find yourselves in and players like Lescott can see this.

Great reply!!

It's sad when bitter bastids only aim to reduce your comments to what they want to hear...

 

[1qwerty]

Ok, two points, firstly we HAVEN'T missed out on Lescott, not at this point anyway.

Secondly, don't you think it kind of sums up the direction both our clubs are heading in, and which has the better potential, that we've tried and failed to sign Kaka, Eto'o and Terry whereas Everton have tried, and failed, to sign Kyle Naughton?

You have missed out on Lescott you bufoon! You'd need to be on crack to believe Moyes would sell him now.

I'd be quite happy if we took £30m off city for Lescott , you'll be lucky to get 2 years out of him his knees are so bad . and if Moyes is given the full amount to use in the market on top of the couple of quid he has available I'm absolutely certain that not only will we easily finish ahead of a top heavy city team bursting with over inflated egos and a gobshite called Bellamy who's nearly as much as a disruptive influence as that other turd Barton , You see . history is littered by arrogant , egotistical money men who are of the impression that if you have a problem then throw vast amounts of money at it and the problem goes away , It'a a big season for city , one that is demandind success before a ball is kicked in anger , failure is beyond acceptance ... yet you are all aware that your team is going to be everybody's target , the team that your Boltons , Burnley's ,Blackburns and Stokes are all going to raise their game against , they're all going to think they can get something off you and in a few cases they wll .. Then will come the established teams .. Everton , Villa , Spurs all well run , all with very good players and all damned if they're going to let city steal any of their hard worked thunder ..then there's the Sky 4 , do you think they're going to lie down ? All this pressure ... do you have the players who can handle it ? do you have a manager wily enough to pick a team from a large squad of players who all think they're superstars and tell some of them they're not even good enough to get on the bench ? A tough season ahead for you guys ... one I wish Everton were facing to be honest ... but then Everton have got David Moyes , and as much as you lot dislike him or involve yourselves in the childish practice of calling him names ... Mark Hughes can't hold a candle to him .. he's just not good enough

 

[Dobsy87]

People like yourself believe that the money has made some City fans arrogant, you may be right but what you dont realise is that it has also made many of us sit up and take notice of the fact that without the influx of huge finances we would never have been successful ever again! I have spent the past 30 years watching utter dross but always thinking that 'our day will come', 'every dog has its day' trust me......I WAS WRONG, I was deluded! Its only since the massive cash injection that I have been able to realise that our day was never coming, other than hopefully winning the odd cup sustained success was never coming back to City. Unfortunately for many clubs including your beloved Everton at this moment in time this is the position you find yourselves in and players like Lescott can see this.

Great post, it's sad but it's true, without ADUG or similiar it's impossible to breach the CL cartel consistently.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Fucking hell, how many fucking pages have people been arguing with these scouse rats for?

The most tedious thread ever seen on bluemoon IMO

 

[smiles]

Ok, two points, firstly we HAVEN'T missed out on Lescott, not at this point anyway.

Secondly, don't you think it kind of sums up the direction both our clubs are heading in, and which has the better potential, that we've tried and failed to sign Kaka, Eto'o and Terry whereas Everton have tried, and failed, to sign Kyle Naughton?

You have missed out on Lescott you bufoon! You'd need to be on crack to believe Moyes would sell him now.

Bloody dippers, already trying to sell crack to us

 

[Matty]

Fucking hell, how many fucking pages have people been arguing with these scouse rats for?

The most tedious thread ever seen on bluemoon IMO

Nah, there was the one about barms.......