Leslie Mark Hughes

[Bill]

i'm pro hughes but some of his tactics/subsitutions have left be baffled, maybe its because he sees the players day in day out.
even in the uefa last 8 and possible top ten i see this as a failure, the reason i am behind hughes is the seeds of progress are there, some of the things that have wrongly gone against us have also cost us many points.
bearing in mind our missing players and general injuries we have had a very small squad thus making the players very tired.
come christmas with the summer window under his belt should give us a better idea on how far we have come, if we are standing still then i too will be looking to change managers, for no other reason than something has to give.
lets hope in does'nt come to that because i like mark hughes and i think he'll take us wherever we want to be.

 

[Kinkys Blue Socks]

i'm pro hughes but some of his tactics/subsitutions have left be baffled, maybe its because he sees the players day in day out.
even in the uefa last 8 and possible top ten i see this as a failure, the reason i am behind hughes is the seeds of progress are there, some of the things that have wrongly gone against us have also cost us many points.
bearing in mind our missing players and general injuries we have had a very small squad thus making the players very tired.
come christmas with the summer window under his belt should give us a better idea on how far we have come, if we are standing still then i too will be looking to change managers, for no other reason than something has to give.
lets hope in does'nt come to that because i like mark hughes and i think he'll take us wherever we want to be.

Correct.

 

[mancity1]

I think the best wat to sum us up is that when left to our devices by sides that go at us with the ball rather than the man we can cope ok with that.

We have players who individually have quality but as a team we don't know how to dig in and get dirty so to speak.

With sides that are physical and give us no time on the ball we cannot break them down and unfortunately a lack of concentration or poor piece of marking particularly from set pieces will cost us in the end.

We have one point to show for our efforts when we concede first and Hughes has neither the game plan or the nous to change things to our benefit when we concede.

In his defence we don't have the graft in us player wise to alter things when we concede. We don't look the part when we trail in games when we concede first and in fact all season have scored in a total of three games when we have conceded first.

They are damming stats and the reason why we are not home and dry yet as far as our premiership status for next year is concerned no matter what we think we still need to collect points to stay up and the UEFA Cup while a good thing for the club iis going to hinder our abilities to collect as many points as we should given our injury rate and our lack of depth in key areas.

All in all with the finances at our disposal it has been a poor year so far and I have no doubt that Mark Hughes has to take some responsibility for that.

Apparantly our previous manager knew or at least was under the impression that he would be replaced as early as February in his first season and while you can argue about the patience levels of the new owners vis a vis the previous ones to date when you look at all the factors at play MH does not compare favourably to any of our previous managers since our last promotion.

I am pessimistic at the best of times I know but I honestly believed we would be above the 40 points level with the side we had in August after 29 games and no doubt the likes of Bellamy, Given and De Jong have off their own bat emabled us to get some points which will be crucial in the run home.

I can see us winning one game away from home all season and quite frankly you can never expect to achieve much more than keeping your head above water with results like that.

If an manager with an ability to quickly make players who prefer to win but are not too fussed if they don't win games that they should win into players that despise losing and will do anything humanly possible to minimise losing are available over the summer I believe the owners need to sound those types of managers out.

 

[Rammy Blue]

i'm pro hughes but some of his tactics/subsitutions have left be baffled, maybe its because he sees the players day in day out.
even in the uefa last 8 and possible top ten i see this as a failure, the reason i am behind hughes is the seeds of progress are there, some of the things that have wrongly gone against us have also cost us many points.
bearing in mind our missing players and general injuries we have had a very small squad thus making the players very tired.
come christmas with the summer window under his belt should give us a better idea on how far we have come, if we are standing still then i too will be looking to change managers, for no other reason than something has to give.
lets hope in does'nt come to that because i like mark hughes and i think he'll take us wherever we want to be.

i agree with pretty much all of this, my issue though would again be that imo the ONLY time a team should change management is at the beginning of the summer - you say "come Xmas..." but that would throw us into the position of a new manager not having the opportunity until the following summer to change things and this would then mean another year will have slipped by and been wasted.

 

[jay_mcfc]

KBS your point about having a bad start is wrong, we started the season well enough. The problem is that on the field, until the last few league games, we have shown no improvement at all. The middle part and the away form all season have been absolutely atrocious...not bad or indifferent, it's been atrocious.

If club managers were successful because of determination or passion or ability to bring in good players then Mark Hughes would be one of the best managers in the country. They're not and he's not. As much as he might be doing a grand job around the club, maagers are paid to get results on the field and over a big chunk of a season the results have been shite (not an opinion and not something I'd be prepared to argue over)

 

[Bill]

KBS your point about having a bad start is wrong, we started the season well enough. The problem is that on the field, until the last few league games, we have shown no improvement at all. The middle part and the away form all season have been absolutely atrocious...not bad or indifferent, it's been atrocious.

If club managers were successful because of determination or passion or ability to bring in good players then Mark Hughes would be one of the best managers in the country. They're not and he's not. As much as he might be doing a grand job around the club, maagers are paid to get results on the field and over a big chunk of a season the results have been shite (not an opinion and not something I'd be prepared to argue over)

can't argue with you jay, results have been dreadful at times, my patience though comes from where we were when he took over and that was a complete and utter shambles, hence its a work in progress, so far not brilliant but at least progress.
as i say xmas should tell us more, or as rammy says wait till the following summer. no excuses then for sure.

 

[mancity1]

KBS your point about having a bad start is wrong, we started the season well enough. The problem is that on the field, until the last few league games, we have shown no improvement at all. The middle part and the away form all season have been absolutely atrocious...not bad or indifferent, it's been atrocious.

If club managers were successful because of determination or passion or ability to bring in good players then Mark Hughes would be one of the best managers in the country. They're not and he's not. As much as he might be doing a grand job around the club, maagers are paid to get results on the field and over a big chunk of a season the results have been shite (not an opinion and not something I'd be prepared to argue over)

Fair comments jay however when you look at each individual we have brought into the club especially in January but again over last summer as well they all had defining reasons for a move and I cannot think of one outside Kompany ( maybe ) that would have been too difficult to entice to the club at the time.

In short we had to pay over the odds that other premiership clubs including to wealthier ones would have most likely forked out for each of these players and while I suspect we will be looking for at least four to five more experienced players that hopefully have a passion for winning and want to progress the club in the right way over the summer I have grave reservations that Hughes and Cook are up to the challenge of being part of the next step the owners will require of us to make.

 

[sixlashes]

the problem is not mh its the fact we have so much money and maybe be able to attract anyone. I personally have no problem with the guy he seems a nice man but he is not the best manager in the world by a long chalk and thats what most people on here want. if your willing to wait and see if he turns out the best well good on you but I have waited long enough and want us to win something now .so my point is get the best manager around now and stop pissing about.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Mancity1 I think you're quite right about the signings, most of them have been around for a while and have big reputations but Hughes brought them here and most fairly cheap. Zab, Kompany, Given and SWP were great value whilst we probably paid a bit too much for Bellamy, Bridge and De Jong but they are good players who've improved us. You'd be a complete fool to question his signings as all in all they've been excellent. All the more confusing it is then when you look how shit we've been.

 

[jay_mcfc]

the problem is not mh its the fact we have so much money and maybe be able to attract anyone. I personally have no problem with the guy he seems a nice man but he is not the best manager in the world by a long chalk and thats what most people on here want. if your willing to wait and see if he turns out the best well good on you but I have waited long enough and want us to win something now .so my point is get the best manager around now and stop pissing about.

And that is the right attitude to have and like I said last night to the derision of a mad woman, it won't sit well with some of our fans because our saving grace has always been 'support the club no matter what'. That doesn't have to go out of the window though, you can want success without getting all gooey about our crazy past.