Libya (Merged)

Ducado said:
ElanJo said:
I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.

The telegraph had something about it, but like I said you can't really categorise this as a religious uprising, or any of the others, much has to do with the lack of democracy, corruption, rising food prices, unemployment and a huge youth population with access to western media and social networks, I guess when they see the standard of living in Europe and the west, they think, (quite rightly) with all the wealth they have under their feet why can't they have a bit of that. Libya is a prime example of how not to run a country, it should be as rich as any of the Gulf countries and a standard of living to match, it's not got a huge population

-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:22 pm --

A bit more on the woman who was raped

<a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-28" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/ ... g-march-28</a>

That link has disturbed me the vid of the dead kids and the one in hospital.
 
ElanJo said:
Jackson-ctid said:
Disgruntled Civilians, Defected Generals and high ranking officials opposed to the gaddafi regime. The bulk of the rebel "army" is civilians who have taken up arms but they are well organised in the defence of their cities by former gaddafi officials.

No Al-Qaeda then? That area of Libya is an Islamic terrorist hotbed remember

Yes, we're helping Al Qaeda overthrow a government... meanwhile somewhere else, we're helping a government overthrow Al Qaeda
 
There must be people in Tripoli & elsewhere who are opposed to gaddaffi who are absolutley petrified when nato airplanes are dropping bombs & submarines are fireing cruise missiles .Now what hapens when the "rebels" start shelling & firing on civilians in Tripoli will nato start to bomb them .?
 
cyberblue said:
There must be people in Tripoli & elsewhere who are opposed to gaddaffi who are absolutley petrified when nato airplanes are dropping bombs & submarines are fireing cruise missiles .Now what hapens when the "rebels" start shelling & firing on civilians in Tripoli will nato start to bomb them .?


The UN have made it clear, they are there to only "protect civilians".

So, presumably, when the Libyan army decide to regain their land the UN will stand by as it will be one army against another.

Or will the neutral UN actually take sides...

I don't think anyone doubts the answer to this one!
 
Jackson-ctid said:
ElanJo said:
No Al-Qaeda then? That area of Libya is an Islamic terrorist hotbed remember

Yes, we're helping Al Qaeda overthrow a government... meanwhile somewhere else, we're helping a government overthrow Al Qaeda

I sense sarcasm, and yet it is entirely possible to fight Al Qaeda in one theatre and help them in an other. It doesn't have to be intentional or as part of some kind of conspiracy.
 
ElanJo said:
Jackson-ctid said:
Yes, we're helping Al Qaeda overthrow a government... meanwhile somewhere else, we're helping a government overthrow Al Qaeda

I sense sarcasm, and yet it is entirely possible to fight Al Qaeda in one theatre and help them in an other. It doesn't have to be intentional or as part of some kind of conspiracy.

The middle east is one theatre. And no it's not possible, we are in the midst of a "Global War on Terrorism" with the Taliban and Al Qaeda being the main belligerents. Why on earth would we then help them regain power in another country.
 
ElanJo said:
Jackson-ctid said:
Yes, we're helping Al Qaeda overthrow a government... meanwhile somewhere else, we're helping a government overthrow Al Qaeda

I sense sarcasm, and yet it is entirely possible to fight Al Qaeda in one theatre and help them in an other. It doesn't have to be intentional or as part of some kind of conspiracy.

So are you saying you have evidence for this accusation? If you have we await it with baited breath, as soon as you post it we will forward it to the UN, for their immediate attention!
 
Soulboy said:
cyberblue said:
There must be people in Tripoli & elsewhere who are opposed to gaddaffi who are absolutley petrified when nato airplanes are dropping bombs & submarines are fireing cruise missiles .Now what hapens when the "rebels" start shelling & firing on civilians in Tripoli will nato start to bomb them .?


The UN have made it clear, they are there to only "protect civilians".

So, presumably, when the Libyan army decide to regain their land the UN will stand by as it will be one army against another.

Or will the neutral UN actually take sides...

I don't think anyone doubts the answer to this one!
"They are only there to protect civilians ",but there are many many civilians living in fear of the Nato air strikes & submarine missile launch<br /><br />-- Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:50 pm --<br /><br />
cyberblue said:
Soulboy said:
The UN have made it clear, they are there to only "protect civilians".

So, presumably, when the Libyan army decide to regain their land the UN will stand by as it will be one army against another.

Or will the neutral UN actually take sides...

I don't think anyone doubts the answer to this one!
"They are only there to protect civilians ",but there are many many civilians living in fear of the Nato air strikes & submarine missile launch
 

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