Libya (Merged)

ElanJo said:
Anyone know who these "rebels" are?

Disgruntled Civilians, Defected Generals and high ranking officials opposed to the gaddafi regime. The bulk of the rebel "army" is civilians who have taken up arms but they are well organised in the defence of their cities by former gaddafi officials.
 
Jackson-ctid said:
ElanJo said:
Anyone know who these "rebels" are?

Disgruntled Civilians, Defected Generals and high ranking officials opposed to the gaddafi regime. The bulk of the rebel "army" is civilians who have taken up arms but they are well organised in the defence of their cities by former gaddafi officials.

No Al-Qaeda then? That area of Libya is an Islamic terrorist hotbed remember
 
SWP's back said:
cyberblue said:
The Sky Reporter on Sat morning said there was at least I million people demonstrating in London ,other estimates vary wildley from three hundred thousand to halfe a million one women on the demonstration thought there was well over a million .whatever the true number there was a hell of a lot of people not satisfied with our own goverment

300-500,000 is the figure that has been reported and I would listen to offal figures rather than "some woman in Hyde park".

You really think Libya and anti-cut march are on a similar level?

I shall leave ducado to keep showing you up, he does it so well.
What on earth are you on about ? when did i say Libya & anti cut march are on the same level .?i am mereley pointing out that while we have no hestitation to go & help people in the middle east there are hundreds of thousands of our own people not happy with the goverment .as you can see from my post i said the estmates of how many on the march varied widely & merely quoated what other people were saying .
 
ElanJo said:
Jackson-ctid said:
Disgruntled Civilians, Defected Generals and high ranking officials opposed to the gaddafi regime. The bulk of the rebel "army" is civilians who have taken up arms but they are well organised in the defence of their cities by former gaddafi officials.

No Al-Qaeda then? That area of Libya is an Islamic terrorist hotbed remember

Benghazi has always been quite a religious city, and it's true the east had provided quite a few Jihadies especially in Iraq, however in context, historically Benghazi was (and is) the main seat of the Beni Salim tribe, who historically were the most important tribe and played a key role in Libyan independence, but they have been rather downtrodden over the last few decades, so part of this upraising is partly tribal in nature although not all of it, remember that autocratic rulers tend to breed Islamic Fundamentalists
 
Jackson-ctid said:
ElanJo said:
Anyone know who these "rebels" are?

Disgruntled Civilians, Defected Generals and high ranking officials opposed to the gaddafi regime. The bulk of the rebel "army" is civilians who have taken up arms but they are well organised in the defence of their cities by former gaddafi officials.
The Generals High ranking officials that have defected were the backbone of gaddafi regime but jumped ship when the shit hit the fan .Let us hope that any new regime in Libya has democrtaic elections & distributes the wealth fairley .alas that is just wishful thinking
 
Ducado said:
ElanJo said:
No Al-Qaeda then? That area of Libya is an Islamic terrorist hotbed remember

Benghazi has always been quite a religious city, and it's true the east had provided quite a few Jihadies especially in Iraq, however in context, historically Benghazi was (and is) the main seat of the Beni Salim tribe, who historically were the most important tribe and played a key role in Libyan independence, but they have been rather downtrodden over the last few decades, so part of this upraising is partly tribal in nature although not all of it, remember that autocratic rulers tend to breed Islamic Fundamentalists

I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.
 
ElanJo said:
Ducado said:
Benghazi has always been quite a religious city, and it's true the east had provided quite a few Jihadies especially in Iraq, however in context, historically Benghazi was (and is) the main seat of the Beni Salim tribe, who historically were the most important tribe and played a key role in Libyan independence, but they have been rather downtrodden over the last few decades, so part of this upraising is partly tribal in nature although not all of it, remember that autocratic rulers tend to breed Islamic Fundamentalists

I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.
Surely a good time to make up.
 
ElanJo said:
Ducado said:
Benghazi has always been quite a religious city, and it's true the east had provided quite a few Jihadies especially in Iraq, however in context, historically Benghazi was (and is) the main seat of the Beni Salim tribe, who historically were the most important tribe and played a key role in Libyan independence, but they have been rather downtrodden over the last few decades, so part of this upraising is partly tribal in nature although not all of it, remember that autocratic rulers tend to breed Islamic Fundamentalists

I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.




Can we trust a British government to get it right this time. We allegedly supported and supplied arms to Saddam Hussein when it served our aims against Iran and we allegedly supported and supplied arms to Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden in their fight against the Russian invasion. Both decisions to supply weapons and training ended in the loss of British servicemen and women.

Where foreign policy is concerned how can we put our troops lives at risk on foreign soil on the say so of TWATS who cant be trusted to make out an expenses form.
 
ElanJo said:
Ducado said:
Benghazi has always been quite a religious city, and it's true the east had provided quite a few Jihadies especially in Iraq, however in context, historically Benghazi was (and is) the main seat of the Beni Salim tribe, who historically were the most important tribe and played a key role in Libyan independence, but they have been rather downtrodden over the last few decades, so part of this upraising is partly tribal in nature although not all of it, remember that autocratic rulers tend to breed Islamic Fundamentalists

I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.

The telegraph had something about it, but like I said you can't really categorise this as a religious uprising, or any of the others, much has to do with the lack of democracy, corruption, rising food prices, unemployment and a huge youth population with access to western media and social networks, I guess when they see the standard of living in Europe and the west, they think, (quite rightly) with all the wealth they have under their feet why can't they have a bit of that. Libya is a prime example of how not to run a country, it should be as rich as any of the Gulf countries and a standard of living to match, it's not got a huge population<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:22 pm --<br /><br />A bit more on the woman who was raped

<a class="postlink" href="http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-28" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/ ... g-march-28</a>
 
SWP's back said:
ElanJo said:
I don't know whether the reports are true but supposedly the rebel commander fought in Afghanistan and was in Gitmo. If a commander is involved in such crap, and considering that area's ties with Al Qaeda, something tells me that these rebels aren't quite what they're being made out to be.
If this is the case we've gotten ourselves into a mess. Whatever we do we lose.
Surely a good time to make up.

Do we get to have make up sex?

(not you and I)
 

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