Life after death? Your thoughts?

[SWP's back]

I'm not going to touch on your complete bastardization of what it means to be open-minded, it's been mentioned already, what I'd like you to do is expand on the bold part, especially the bit where you mention "detail".

You managed to find out what Ducado meant with the mountains of evidence against evolution yet?

The human genome. Apparently human beings have fewer chromosomes than a cabbage and biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together to produce human beings.

Even the double helix is under question.

Oh Paul, you've just made a real tit of yourself again.

ElanJo - not seen the Libya thread with reference to Ducado, but his evolution statement pricked my ears. I'll be right here on the edge of my seat though.

 

[pauldominic]

You managed to find out what Ducado meant with the mountains of evidence against evolution yet?

The human genome. Apparently human beings have fewer chromosomes than a cabbage and biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together to produce human beings.

Even the double helix is under question.

Yeah, that's utter shit. I have a feeling that you know next to nothing about genetics and have just thrown out words in the vague hope that they might make you sound like you've heard something interesting. The very idea that the double helix is "under question" and that "biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together" is preposterous.

See here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011j7vc/The_Infinite_Monkey_Cage_Series_4_What_Dont_We_Know/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_We_Know/</a>

EDIT: I would never do that with at least a modicum of evidence.

 

[york away to this!]

The human genome. Apparently human beings have fewer chromosomes than a cabbage and biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together to produce human beings.

Even the double helix is under question.

Yeah, that's utter shit. I have a feeling that you know next to nothing about genetics and have just thrown out words in the vague hope that they might make you sound like you've heard something interesting. The very idea that the double helix is "under question" and that "biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together" is preposterous.

See here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011j7vc/The_Infinite_Monkey_Cage_Series_4_What_Dont_We_Know/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_We_Know/</a>

EDIT: I would never do that with at least a modicum of evidence.

mind out, insane man coming through!<br /><br />-- Tue May 31, 2011 7:42 pm --<br /><br />....and where, pray tell, does the bible tell us how a cabbage is put together?

 

[Damocles]

The human genome. Apparently human beings have fewer chromosomes than a cabbage and biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together to produce human beings.

Even the double helix is under question.

Yeah, that's utter shit. I have a feeling that you know next to nothing about genetics and have just thrown out words in the vague hope that they might make you sound like you've heard something interesting. The very idea that the double helix is "under question" and that "biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together" is preposterous.

See here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011j7vc/The_Infinite_Monkey_Cage_Series_4_What_Dont_We_Know/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_We_Know/</a>

EDIT: I would never do that with at least a modicum of evidence.

Wait, are you actually using a radio documentary as evidence? And a comedy show at that? You really don't understand this whole science thing, do you mate?

Go and read an academic article like this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/j847m8l228n3vk63/#section=830818&page=1&locus=85" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.springerlink.com/content/j84 ... 1&locus=85</a>

After listening to this, you are completely wrong. He said that the AMOUNT OF GENES have been misunderstood (which makes sense, because before the Genome Project we literally guessed) and come down, not the amount of chromosomes which is an entirely different thing all together.

Besides, the way that we count genes has moved to. His quote that we "know nothing about genetics" is grandstanding, and utter bollocks. I hate it when scientists do this; they vastly oversimplify complex subjects and do so in such a way that they can be quoted easily. There are very few scientists who can simultaneously inform a general audience and not come off as a twat. Brian Cox has achieved this by stealing everything Carl Sagan ever said and making a program our of it called Wonders.

Go and tell that to the people who are sequencing DNA in 10 minutes flat. Or the people who are using genetics to trace back through the evolutionary record to provide evidence of the earliest forms of life. Or the thousands of other people who make huge strides in genetics on an almost daily basis.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

can I just say I don't see why anyone needs the "holier than thou" attitude on here, it's getting quite cheap insult and patronising tone instead of just sticking to facts/opinions.

just an observation.

 

[manimanc]

can i just give my two penneth worth?

i attend a spiritualist church every so often(on victoria estate in whitefield) and have done for over twenty years and the stuff i hear in there absolutely blows my mind.
sometimes i get a reading,sometimes i don`t but the part i enjoy most is the medium coming out with all sorts of stuff and the reaction it gets when it`s personal,confidential,private or whatever info to the person receiving the reading.
obviously it`s a black and white subject to a lot of people but i truly believe that after this life we go onto another world,a spirit world some would say....

 

[pauldominic]

Yeah, that's utter shit. I have a feeling that you know next to nothing about genetics and have just thrown out words in the vague hope that they might make you sound like you've heard something interesting. The very idea that the double helix is "under question" and that "biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together" is preposterous.

See here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011j7vc/The_Infinite_Monkey_Cage_Series_4_What_Dont_We_Know/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_We_Know/</a>

EDIT: I would never do that with at least a modicum of evidence.

mind out, insane man coming through!

-- Tue May 31, 2011 7:42 pm --

....and where, pray tell, does the bible tell us how a cabbage is put together?

Nowhere. It is not a scientific document.

-- Tue May 31, 2011 9:10 pm --

Yeah, that's utter shit. I have a feeling that you know next to nothing about genetics and have just thrown out words in the vague hope that they might make you sound like you've heard something interesting. The very idea that the double helix is "under question" and that "biologists can't understand the mechanics of how it all fits together" is preposterous.

See here

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011j7vc/The_Infinite_Monkey_Cage_Series_4_What_Dont_We_Know/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t_We_Know/</a>

EDIT: I would never do that with at least a modicum of evidence.

Wait, are you actually using a radio documentary as evidence? And a comedy show at that? You really don't understand this whole science thing, do you mate?

Go and read an academic article like this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/j847m8l228n3vk63/#section=830818&page=1&locus=85" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.springerlink.com/content/j84 ... 1&locus=85</a>

After listening to this, you are completely wrong. He said that the AMOUNT OF GENES have been misunderstood (which makes sense, because before the Genome Project we literally guessed) and come down, not the amount of chromosomes which is an entirely different thing all together.

Besides, the way that we count genes has moved to. His quote that we "know nothing about genetics" is grandstanding, and utter bollocks. I hate it when scientists do this; they vastly oversimplify complex subjects and do so in such a way that they can be quoted easily. There are very few scientists who can simultaneously inform a general audience and not come off as a twat. Brian Cox has achieved this by stealing everything Carl Sagan ever said and making a program our of it called Wonders.

Go and tell that to the people who are sequencing DNA in 10 minutes flat. Or the people who are using genetics to trace back through the evolutionary record to provide evidence of the earliest forms of life. Or the thousands of other people who make huge strides in genetics on an almost daily basis.

Ah I see. They want to make a decent living before they die.

Just like Richard and everyone else who exploits the gullible.

You're accusing Brian Cox of plagiarism which is a pretty serious offence in academia.

 

[Damocles]

Brian Cox will admit himself that he has stolen quotes from Sagan. But I didn't know that about plagiarism in academia. My degree and masters were bought online.

 

[stony]

can i just give my two penneth worth?

i attend a spiritualist church every so often(on victoria estate in whitefield) and have done for over twenty years and the stuff i hear in there absolutely blows my mind.
sometimes i get a reading,sometimes i don`t but the part i enjoy most is the medium coming out with all sorts of stuff and the reaction it gets when it`s personal,confidential,private or whatever info to the person receiving the reading.
obviously it`s a black and white subject to a lot of people but i truly believe that after this life we go onto another world,a spirit world some would say....

Spiritualism- a whole new can of worms. My mum was a spiritualist and when she died I abided by her wishes to hold her funeral at a spiritualist church and the service conducted by one of their ministers.
The service was really nice but I still think spiritualism is the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard.
It does however provide a fair bit of comfort to the recently bereaved(which is where they get most of their congregation) so it's ok imo.

 

[GSW Blue]

We are born, we live our lives, we die and then we are born again to live exactly the same life in exactly the same period of time as before.

This process is repeated over and over and is why we experience deja vu. Suicide is the only way to break the cycle.