Liverpool away - Hillsborough tribute

[TGR]

I don't know why Heysel and Hillsborough are being compared.
One was an end full of one set of supporters, in a ground that supposedly met all safety requirements.
The other was a crumbling stadia when Italians we put in a section right next to Liverpool.
These Italians goaded the Scousers, they had blades and when it came on top they ran and the Scousers poured after them.
Had the fences stood and the Italian stood there would have been no loss of life.
End of, that simple.

An absolutely unbelievable post.

 

[Judge Roughneck]

Alright then Gazmedina, without resorting to insults I'll give you my opinion. The incidents of Heysel and Hillsborough bear comparison because they were a mere 4 years apart. Thea sizeable number of Liverpools travelling fans thought it clever that they could goa nywhere in Europe and behave in any way they chose. In facts fans of most clubs did, including our own behaved terribly, don't try and paint it any other way because i saw it happen time after time in the 80,'s. LFC fans did it Europe and revelled in thieving and violence. Its well documented. Now to your question. Yes i have sympathy for the 96 who died, they were undoubtedly the innocents who got there early. They should have all gone home. As people have testified on this forum Hillsborough was NOT a safe stadium prior to this game, that much was obvious. That's where SWFC were to blame. And the FA. The year before the police had put in place an outer cordon which stopped ticketless fans from getting near the stadium. This worked but in 1989 the inexperienced match commander abandoned this measure as a cost cutting measure and this is just one of the reasons where the police were culpable. The media reporting in particular was an offensive disgusting joke ( similar to Whitworth Park's take on the 'blade carrying' juventus fans above, which ostensibly doesn't as yet attract a moderators 'opinion')
There will be ageing Liverpool fans are charges into that end who knew they didn't care about the consequences of their actions on those in front who have utterly absolved of their actions that day and its taboo to suggest otherwise. Finally, your introduction of Cregans victims was clumsy in the first instance one of those girls wasn't even born at the time, so im not even going to indulge you any further on that one. That's about the top and bottom of it from my point of view.

 

[malg]

I don't know why Heysel and Hillsborough are being compared.
One was an end full of one set of supporters, in a ground that supposedly met all safety requirements.
The other was a crumbling stadia when Italians we put in a section right next to Liverpool.
These Italians goaded the Scousers, they had blades and when it came on top they ran and the Scousers poured after them.
Had the fences stood and the Italian stood there would have been no loss of life.
End of, that simple.

An absolutely unbelievable post.

Why?

 

[Champions2012!]

Its only fair to allow liverpool a 2-0 head start before kick-off.

 

[Aguero_Element]

tragedy. hopefully they will get somewhere with the gov

 

[1998 blue]

Kick off is now 13.37pm.

All games that weekend will start 7 mins later as a mark of respect as it is 25 years since the Hillsborough disaster.

This is going to make me sound stupid and ignorant but why 7 mins later can someone tell me :/

Original game was stopped on 7 minutes I believe.

Ahh thanks a lot :)

 

[Deleted member 3896]

Alright then Gazmedina, without resorting to insults I'll give you my opinion. The incidents of Heysel and Hillsborough bear comparison because they were a mere 4 years apart. Thea sizeable number of Liverpools travelling fans thought it clever that they could goa nywhere in Europe and behave in any way they chose. In facts fans of most clubs did, including our own behaved terribly, don't try and paint it any other way because i saw it happen time after time in the 80,'s. LFC fans did it Europe and revelled in thieving and violence. Its well documented. Now to your question. Yes i have sympathy for the 96 who died, they were undoubtedly the innocents who got there early. They should have all gone home. As people have testified on this forum Hillsborough was NOT a safe stadium prior to this game, that much was obvious. That's where SWFC were to blame. And the FA. The year before the police had put in place an outer cordon which stopped ticketless fans from getting near the stadium. This worked but in 1989 the inexperienced match commander abandoned this measure as a cost cutting measure and this is just one of the reasons where the police were culpable. The media reporting in particular was an offensive disgusting joke ( similar to Whitworth Park's take on the 'blade carrying' juventus fans above, which ostensibly doesn't as yet attract a moderators 'opinion')
There will be ageing Liverpool fans are charges into that end who knew they didn't care about the consequences of their actions on those in front who have utterly absolved of their actions that day and its taboo to suggest otherwise. Finally, your introduction of Cregans victims was clumsy in the first instance one of those girls wasn't even born at the time, so im not even going to indulge you any further on that one. That's about the top and bottom of it from my point of view.

So which part of all that is the reason why you don't agree with actively commemorating the loss of life? Your contention that some people who support the same club misbehaved?

 

[mad4city]

tragedy. hopefully they will get somewhere with the gov

This.


Whatever anybody else thinks about matters,preceding, related, loosely reminding or peripheral... Please refer to the above.

 

[Rascal]

Its simple really.

If any of you feel that strongly you dont want to show respect stay out of the way and let those that want to do so.

 

[Judge Roughneck]

Alright then Gazmedina, without resorting to insults I'll give you my opinion. The incidents of Heysel and Hillsborough bear comparison because they were a mere 4 years apart. Thea sizeable number of Liverpools travelling fans thought it clever that they could goa nywhere in Europe and behave in any way they chose. In facts fans of most clubs did, including our own behaved terribly, don't try and paint it any other way because i saw it happen time after time in the 80,'s. LFC fans did it Europe and revelled in thieving and violence. Its well documented. Now to your question. Yes i have sympathy for the 96 who died, they were undoubtedly the innocents who got there early. They should have all gone home. As people have testified on this forum Hillsborough was NOT a safe stadium prior to this game, that much was obvious. That's where SWFC were to blame. And the FA. The year before the police had put in place an outer cordon which stopped ticketless fans from getting near the stadium. This worked but in 1989 the inexperienced match commander abandoned this measure as a cost cutting measure and this is just one of the reasons where the police were culpable. The media reporting in particular was an offensive disgusting joke ( similar to Whitworth Park's take on the 'blade carrying' juventus fans above, which ostensibly doesn't as yet attract a moderators 'opinion')
There will be ageing Liverpool fans are charges into that end who knew they didn't care about the consequences of their actions on those in front who have utterly absolved of their actions that day and its taboo to suggest otherwise. Finally, your introduction of Cregans victims was clumsy in the first instance one of those girls wasn't even born at the time, so im not even going to indulge you any further on that one. That's about the top and bottom of it from my point of view.

So which part of all that is the reason why you don't agree with actively commemorating the loss of life? Your contention that some people who support the same club misbehaved?

In a paragraph it is that Liverpool FC and their support have this stoic belief that not one of their supporters was in any way to blame that day and the same applies to Heysel and also that they are dead set against the concept of safe standing.. I don't agree with that. For that reason I do not feel compelled to take an active part in their campaign That doesn't mean to say that I would disrepect it other than pointing out my view.