Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Any lessons learned from this from the club, Showsec and Greater Manchester Police will potentially be demonstrated if we beat Southampton. We could end up with another potential powder keg with the rags if both sides get through. Will the policing and stewarding be a bit more aggressive to prevent situations like what happened the other night?

 

[City Mike 1969]

Any lessons learned from this from the club, Showsec and Greater Manchester Police will potentially be demonstrated if we beat Southampton. We could end up with another potential powder keg with the rags if both sides get through. Will the policing and stewarding be a bit more aggressive to prevent situations like what happened the other night?

I suspect that if that chain of events unfolded, there’d be an agreement between the clubs that non cup away allocations would be deployed in each leg.

 

[trevorriley]

Any lessons learned from this from the club, Showsec and Greater Manchester Police will potentially be demonstrated if we beat Southampton. We could end up with another potential powder keg with the rags if both sides get through. Will the policing and stewarding be a bit more aggressive to prevent situations like what happened the other night?

will the club security do anything about the coin throwing from above, it happens a lot in cup games when the whole third tier is taken up by away fans. But was on another level of coin throwing when liverpool came over.

it has been brought up in conversations with stewards & security, so far all i have seen is protective glasses and hard hat baseball caps for stewards & security staff.

 

[give it to gordon]

Guessing the police know who the knobheads are that threw things. If not I would expect photos to be put in the press/media.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

That was the worst thing
Loads of coppers on Ss2 concourse stood around laughing and scratching their arses, counting the overtime and watching the shit rain down on us from above.
Meanwhile they abdicated policing the scousers on L3 to Showsec students on minimum wage
GMP are cowards and shithouses

How much were the tickets on level 1 and 2? Seems to me people who paid money only to be showered with missiles deserve some recompense. GMP are like any other force in the country, just another arm of the social services.

 

[trevorriley]

From the father of the daughter hit by the missile (copied from LinkedIn

My 15 year old daughter was hit by a weighted pint pot thrown from the ‘LFC section’ of fans at The Etihad during Manchester City Vs Liverpool last Thursday. The pot ‘smashed’ on impact, she suffered a head injury and was ‘glued’ at the ground before being released later that evening. The incident occurred about 20 mins in, just after Liverpool’s first equaliser. We think it was probably thrown from block 318 as we were directly below this block.

We are meeting officials at Manchester City Football Club this week and are asking for any information that could help us identify the thrower. The police took statements, are keen to pursue and will press charges if we can identify the culprit.

Although I appreciate this is a professional networking site I am hoping if it’s spread far and wide a memory may be jogged somewhere. There were in excess of 50,000 people present.

If you were at the match…or know someone who was.

- Was it near you?
- Where were they located?
- Do you know who it is?
- Have you seen any clips on social?

We have had a call from LFC directly (Billy Hogan) who apologised unreservedly on behalf of the club and I would like to stress they are as committed as we are to rooting this individual out of football and for them to face the consequences of their actions.

Please don’t come at me with whataboutery. I completely condemn any incidents of violence from any football fans and any offensive chanting by fans of either side. She is a 15-year old who was enjoying watching her team with the rest of her family and she is now scarred for life.

I would like to thank the dozens of Liverpool Football Club fans who have contacted us so far with kind messages of support in finding the perpetrator and also all friends and contacts who have been in touch.

I am a Dad seeking justice for his injured daughter, that is all.

All information gratefully received.

i hope your daughter is ok an hasnt been put off going to games, not good at all especially knowing this was always a threat for us fans below.

keep on at security and the club about it, im sure you have already.

Let me know if you are struggling getting hold of any names to contact, i help run 1894 group and have spoken to many from security, they are very helpful.

 

[MillisleBlue]

I’ll shame them, every single one of them. Until they self-police themselves and start to understand that they have to take responsibility, then everybody needs to do their bit in educating the cult.

Wouldn't surprise me if criminal types up and down the land begin to use the "LFC fan defence" in Court even when they're bang to rights guilty cos, let's face it, they'll get off every fucking time.

 

[urban genie]

Any lessons learned from this from the club, Showsec and Greater Manchester Police will potentially be demonstrated if we beat Southampton. We could end up with another potential powder keg with the rags if both sides get through. Will the policing and stewarding be a bit more aggressive to prevent situations like what happened the other night?

Showsec are no longer doing our security, well it wasn't them on entrance P at least on the night, the new ones took forever to search people

 

[Norbert D]

Put yourself in that stewards position - probably on what? £12 an hour?
Would you (on your own) go up and try and deal with him and his hate filled pals?
Even 5 or 6 stewards would be hesitant doing that.
They aren't night club bouncers.
I'd like to think they were able to get a message to the police box so that cameras can be aimed on the culprits so they can be nabbed at a later time.
I suspect even the police would be reluctant to go in up there and take one lad out - and that would be the same for fans from any club not just the Scousers. It's too risky to do that up there (which yes begs the question why put them up there).

Of course a single steward isn’t going to tackle an away fan. Whereas they will happily tackle home fans. If we are in agreement that City cannot keep their own fans safe when a larger than normal away contingent are at the Etihad then it’s simple, don’t give them the fucking tickets. Now of course the dippers stand out as supreme dickheads. Maybe the club bite the bullet and start fucking the dippers off, whatever they do, they need to do something.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

i hope your daughter is ok an hasnt been put off going to games, not good at all especially knowing this was always a threat for us fans below.

keep on at security and the club about it, im sure you have already.

Let me know if you are struggling getting hold of any names to contact, i help run 1894 group and have spoken to many from security, they are very helpful.

It wasn’t my daughter. I copied a post from LinkedIn from the daughter’s father. Given your contacts with security do you know why they in conjunction with GMP didn’t limit the allocation to just the normal PL one as we did with the rags the other year

 

[Stephen230]

I suspect that if that chain of events unfolded, there’d be an agreement between the clubs that non cup away allocations would be deployed in each leg.

We played them in the semi a couple of years ago didn’t we, without any major issues that I can remember at least.

Can’t remember where they put them or how many they got though.

 

[jrb]

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I know football forums can attract some of the weirdest elements of a fan base (present company excluded, of course), but a quick scan of theirs seems to show that a few spent their whole Christmas day painfully putting up a case for why injuring a teenage girl, and possibly scaring her off football for good, was actually Pep Guardiola's fault for complaining that coins were thrown at him. Fuck me.

Not much else to do when the probation office has stopped you seeing the kids at Christmas.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

The solution is simple.

Each club should agree and limit their away allocation to 3000 fans in future cup games, so both sets of fans can remain in the normal away ends. I appreciate that the additional 3000 away fans that could get tickets won’t like that, but other than that or temporary netting along the front of SSL3, there is no other way of stopping the Scousers repeating the same antics again in future domestic cup matches.

So 2,999 people per game should have to miss out because of the odd halfwit?

How about the police show some bollocks and sort out the hooligans instead of this softly softly bollocks.

A quick truncheon to the skull and these twats would soon learn to behave.

 

[jrb]

So 2,999 people per game should have to miss out because of the odd halfwit?

How about the police show some bollocks and sort out the hooligans instead of this softly softly bollocks.

A quick truncheon to the skull and these twats would soon learn to behave.

I did include such a scenario in my post. I didn’t say they should. I also offered an alternative which is netting on long poles placed in brackets on the inside of the wall at the front of the 3rd tier. That is quick, cheap, easy to setup, and easy to take down, when away fans, especially Liverpool fans and United fans are given the the whole of SSL3 in cup ties.

In an ideal world Liverpool fans should have behaved themselves, especially after both clubs released the joint statement, but we all know Liverpool fans are a law upon themselves.

Can you image if the Police had done that. You know what would have followed from LFC, Liverpool fans and their media. The days are long gone when the Police can and will use force like that. Extendable truncheons are draw as a last resort and fans are told to get back. If that doesn’t work the the Police move forward, hitting anyone standing in their way until the fans have dispersed.

 

[cheekybids]

Had Gary Lineker & the rest of the bbc tweeted about disgraceful attacks on a young girl.

I notice when it’s an opposing fan being carried out it doesn’t bring back trauma for the survivors.

 

[Silvas Left Peg]

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Gross

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think Grantham was voted Most Boring Town in the UK by its own residents, in a survey on Radio One (so it was aimed at groovy pop-pickers I suppose) - some years ago though. Maybe it has a Wetherspoons and a Subway now. Not 'alf.

I was in the Spoons in G-Town, The Tollemache Inn, for a pint this summer after I’d finished my day’s work. Some typical Spoons punters in there. It’s adjacent to the Thatcher statue and next to the town hall. Earlier that day, I’d noticed a queue to get in before in opened at 8am!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Over the years I've had two (unconnected) close friends from Grantham. Both got out early and never looked back. Actually, like Thatcher herself, come to think of it. A woman who took elocution lessons so that her accent wouldn't hold back her career.

tbf, a Grantham accent is not the most pleasing on the ear.

 

[give it to gordon]

I did include such a scenario in my post. I didn’t say they should. I also offered an alternative which is netting on long poles placed in brackets on the inside of the wall at the front of the 3rd tier. That is quick, cheap, easy to setup, and easy to take down, when away fans, especially Liverpool fans and United fans are given the the whole of SSL3 in cup ties.

In an ideal world Liverpool fans should have behaved themselves, especially after both club released the joint statement, but we all know Liverpool fans are a law upon themselves.

Can you image if the Police had done that. You know what would have followed from LFC, Liverpool fans and their media. The days are long gone when the Police can and will use force like that. Extendable truncheons are draw as a last resort and fans are told to get back. If that doesn’t work the the Police move forward, hitting anyone standing in their way until the fans have dispersed.

The police in france used the correct method of controlling the dippers. Yet again the dippers were cleared of any wrong doing. And the police were criticised