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Good article in the BBC for most distance covered in PL games this season

Foden is the Running Man
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Our two pocket rockets. I'm gonna miss Bernie v the Dips when he goes; he needs to educate one of the newbies in the art of a #buyacoffee where the Dips are concerned. I do believe he dislikes their fanbase ( cult) as much as any of us do!
 
I don't know if they really interpret the law this way, but to me, "in the keeper's eyeline" shouldn't just mean "between the keeper and the ball". If the player is in front of the keeper, even if the ball's coming from a slightly different angle, he's still interfering being a visual distraction. This definitely applies to Robertson, but not to Bernie, who was more to the opposite side of the Wolves goalie and he also dropped down to be even less of a visual distraction before the header came in. The bigger justification for ruling out the City goal v Wolves would be that Bernie bumps the goalie before he gets out of the way. Of course, if they decide to rule out goals for fouling the goalkeeper, Arsenal would be mid-table at best this season...
I can go along with that as well as going along with the reasoning that penalising Robertson for trying to get out of the way of the ball seems counterproductive.

That said, Donnaruma doesn’t know he’s trying to get out of the way, so he’s still active in that sense.

The law isn’t specific enough, so there is still some subjectivity, which is why both disallowing the goal or allowing it are possible outcomes.

The bumping of keepers was done while they were both onside as they only become in an offside position after the headers were made. Neither were enough to suggest a foul on the keepers.
 
" they do not accept the decision was arrived at for subjective reasons " - I might be wrong here, but doesn't the wording of that statement imply that they are claiming that the decision was as a consequence of a biased/corrupt decision by the officials in control of the game ?

Should the PL not be charging LFC for bringing the game into disrepute ?

or are cartel members exempt from the normal rules ?

Aren't there rules about making such claims or are LFC above such laws/rules ?
But if they don't accept the decision was arrived at for subjective reasons, then they must think it was for objective reasons, in which case, what's the problem? Do they know what subjective and objective mean?

Edit: just read @ChicagoBlue post above - seems like it wasn't a direct quote, so maybe it's CityXtra who need a dictionary!
 
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I see the cult and their fawning media are in full deflection mode as expected. You got yer fucking shorts pulled you soft bastards. Hammered in fact.
Yes indeed. Ladyboy in the Fail today writes that City (and Scum) were very unusual in keep winning titles - I quote verbatim.... "teams such as City and - 15 years ago- Man Utd have skewed the way a modern generation of football fans view things. They expect dominance and continued excellence. But the truth is it is desperately hard to defend an English League title".


Cobblers.


And, fcek a doodle doo, not a word of praise for our 4 in a row ( and whisper it Scum x3 twice) all to make excuses for thislot, despite having spent a fortune making a right hash of it. Excuses, excuses and never their fault.
 
Fucking hell ive seen some weird takes on here but Gvardiol as a midfielder because we are uncomfortable with him in defence? the only time we have looked secure at the back anytime in the last 18 months is when he starts at CB he solidifies the whole defence, also he is nowhere near mobile enough to run a midfield he would look so out of place in there.
No, obviously not just because I don't like him in defence, but because I specifically do like him up the other end.

During those particularly depressing, toothless performances last season, he was quite often our most threatening player, with Haaland double- and triple-stacked in a tight area. He's good feet and knows where the goal is.

I agree that he's better at CB than at LB, but that's relative. He's often shown up against any pacy, fluid attack. Just my opinion.

EDIT: just checked - he's scored more goals than either Doku or Savinho, having played just one game more than Doku.
 
I’m not sure their goal was offside, as in, he was offside but barely interfering… but I’ve only seen it back at half time in the ground.

However, we were owed a decision against them after:

CL games 2018:
Salah was offside for his goal
David Silva was brought down (legs swept from under him), no pen given
Sterling was brought down (legs swept from under him), no pen given
Jesus was onside for that late in the second half disallowed goal that would have given us an away goal.
Milner hand balled it at our place, no pen given
Milner played the ball for the Sané goal meaning Sané wasn’t offside, goal disallowed for offside

Prem Oct18:
Agüero brought down, no pen given

Prem Jan19:
Sterling was fouled by Robertson, no pen given

Prem Nov19:
Alexander-Arnold hand-balled it, clear as day he looked at the ball and stiffened his arm, no pen given and they scored up the other end.
Salah was offside for his goal and VAR wasn’t even used.
Pep has even said that VAR ‘wasn’t working’ in the first half.
Mane pushed Sterling in the back, no pen given.

Prem Oct21:
Milner brought down Foden, no pen given.
Milner twice escaped getting a second yellow (both were bookable offences)

Prem Apr22:
No red cards for either Fabinho or Thiago (Fabinho’s could have been a straight red), then he avoided another yellow for a bookable offence challenge after the yellow he got when he should have been sent off

Prem Oct21:
Ref was letting minor physical contact go ALL game, we score a goal but they disallow it for a minor physical infringement in the build up but then allow four of the same instances of this go in favour of Liverpool throughout the rest of the game.

Prem Nov23:
Dias’ goal was disallowed for a ‘nothing’ infringement on their keeper, Akanji just jumped for the ball and happened to touch the keeper.

I’ve probably missed some…

Wasn’t there a dodgy one in the season we were going to the First Division title with them in 1977?
Do you keep a log or do you have a megabrain?
 
That felt like a statement of intent. We’re not there yet but we are much much better than last season. Intriguing that only Cherki and Donarumma were the only new players compared to the same fixture last season. Thought yesterday would be a good indicator of where we are and we certainly are heading in the right direction.

We still have a few spells of fragility, Salah and Gakpo should have scored and it was far too easy for Van Dijk for the disallowed goal, but we’re much sharper going forward and far less vulnerable on transitions.

Nico x2, Doku, Bernardo and Dias excellent yesterday. Gvardiol was good but still has a bad habit of giving the ball away needlessly. Nunes looks the part at right back but his concentration needs to improve. He switched off for Gakpo’s chance and I think he was the one playing Salah onside for his chance. Pity Haaland didn’t hit the century. Cherki was a bit too casual at times.

We seem to be cursed from the penalty spot against Liverpool (Mahrez, KDB,Gundogan and now Haaland have all missed). While we have beaten them in 2 penalty shootouts the last successful penalty I can remember was Anelka’s!
Mahrez pen rises in the West at GMT 03.15 tonight.
 

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