Liverpool Takeover (Merged)

Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

Thats tinypic link says the debts will be bought out for cash, not leveraged so they will be down to 60 mill in debt......


Methinks they will get stronger once this goes through.
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

fbloke said:
Just come back from a nice walk in the country with the dog and to be honest I feel a bit sorry for H and G, after all they own the club and yet have been seemingly outmanoeuvred by a right fecking devious bastards in Broughton.

What does strike me now though is that there is a slim possibility that in announcing the deal and the values now Broughton may open himself up to a legal challenge if H and G can show that they had a better deal in place (or even refinancing in the pipeline) at a higher value.

In an open auction which Liverpool were no doubt part of why would they announce these things PRIOR to the owners consent? And why have they gone public in the way they have until they could force the issue once RBS called in the loans?

Surely there is a case of the board not putting the owners/shareholders first as they should?

Broughton has said this morning that there is/was a written undertaking that H&G would not reject a reasonable offer. As Broughton has delivered what he (and I FWIW) beleives is that offer, he is challenging H&G to breach the undertaking. The written undertaking effectively consented to Broughton to focus purely on delivering a reasonable (as opposed to a H&G satisfactory) offer. In the absence of a higher offer that is funded today, H&G will lose in court in my mind.
 
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Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

projectriver said:
fbloke said:
Just come back from a nice walk in the country with the dog and to be honest I feel a bit sorry for H and G, after all they own the club and yet have been seemingly outmanoeuvred by a right fecking devious bastards in Broughton.

What does strike me now though is that there is a slim possibility that in announcing the deal and the values now Broughton may open himself up to a legal challenge if H and G can show that they had a better deal in place (or even refinancing in the pipeline) at a higher value.

In an open auction which Liverpool were no doubt part of why would they announce these things PRIOR to the owners consent? And why have they gone public in the way they have until they could force the issue once RBS called in the loans?

Surely there is a case of the board not putting the owners/shareholders first as they should?

Broughton has said this morning that there is/was a written undertaking that H&G would not reject a reasonable offer. As Broughton has delivered what he (and I FWIW) beleives is that offer, he is challenging H&G to breach the undertaking. The written undertaking effectively consented to Broughton to focus purely on delivering a reasonable (as opposed to a H&G satisfactory) offer. In the absence of a higher offer that is funded today, H&G will lose in court in my mind.

I agree to a point and thats what I was suggesting with the statement that they have been outmanoeuvred here.

However there is a chance that H an G could prove that the process and decisions made by Broughton were more about regaining the moneys owed to RBS than a fair price for the club.

I would not stop l laughing for a week if Hicks pulled a masterstroke and paid off the debt or brought out a new deal with a much higher value.
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

mancity dan said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
The shareholders. That's their over-riding duty of care.

PMSL at Big Nose saying they don't want to be like Chelsea or City. That certainly won't be a problem. They'll be wishing they were like Stoke & Blackpool soon

You mean he doesn't want Liverpool to be like the 1st & 2nd teams in the Premier League?

And whats wrong with City and Chelsea ???


We got lucky thats all...and as everyone knows,you need a little luck in football.. :)
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

Liverpool fans and ex players are talking like this guy is going to be their saviour based on what he has done at the Red Socks.

There is alot of smokes and mirrors here. Red Socks have had no success since 2007, no major signings. They won big in 2004 and 2007 for the first time in years after the takeover. Thats it.

They failed to make the equivalent of their champions league last season regardless of who is in their group its what happened.

Its a bit like Liverpool saying they didnt make the champions league last season because Utd, Chelsea Arsenal and Spurs were better than them. Its a bit of a pathetic excuse.

As for Fenway park the ground could have been properly redeveloped, the fact is they said they were going to build a new ground (Which they never intended to do as they simply do not have that sort of money) and then made minimal improvements due to "Fan outrage" (Tiny minority, were Arsenal fans gutted to leave Highbury for the Emirates?) and "Historic Venue" its all just an excuse.

Their stadium is still very poor by American standards too small and not fit for purpose. They could have built a new improved stadium at Fenway and retained the heritage but they didnt because they dont have the money.

Hows Anfield going to be any different ? They are interested in Liverpool as they have the opportunity to buy cheap, clear the debt (Although quite possibly financed by more debt down the line) stabalise the situation and sell the club on for a big profit in a few years.

Just as long as people understand this is not a Chelsea or City. There will be no money for a new ground or for significant player transfers. There might be some improvements to anfield paid for by higher ticket, merchandise and food drink prices as happened with the Red Socks, Glazers at Utd, Tampa bay etc etc.

If Liverpool fans are happy with this moving forwards fair enough. Tread water higher costs as a fan little chance of any real success.

Its a mark of how far Liverpool have fallen that some Liverpool fans are trying to talk up this deal IMO.
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

fbloke said:
I agree to a point and thats what I was suggesting with the statement that they have been outmanoeuvred here.

However there is a chance that H an G could prove that the process and decisions made by Broughton were more about regaining the moneys owed to RBS than a fair price for the club.

I would not stop l laughing for a week if Hicks pulled a masterstroke and paid off the debt or brought out a new deal with a much higher value.

I'm not sure how H&G can claim they have been prejudiced. The clubs been for sale in a global public auction for a long long time and no fully funded offers have been made. They have run out of time. And they signed the undertaking - nobody forced them (although they were badly advised). Then again I suspect they had no choice at that time as it would have been a condition of RBS rolling the debt.
 

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