Liverpool Takeover (Merged)

Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

nijinskybell said:
bluemanc said:
That's what i thought,everyone thinks the yanks will roll over & the deal will be done in a week,a few more twists & turns methinks.

Business/financial guy on 5Live (Robert Peston?) has said that, although the board has approved the sale, Hicks and Gillette will resist it - what that means in practical terms I don't know.

I think that means that there will be a court case. H + G have nothing now to loose in terms of fans suport. They are not willing to accept there offer at the moment so if they hold out it doesnt make much of a differnce to them. They will go with more money or they will go with the offer that is on the table now for them after a court case.
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

bluemanc said:
The guy with the Rounders francise that's struggling through lack of finance in the USA has a personal fortune of $375 million & will bring no debt to liverpool.
£400 million new ground.
£350 million the takeover.
£100 million on new players.
£50 million legal fees.
We have some very bright people on here concerning money,please explain how this works without using debt to buy liverpool.

£400 million new ground.
Forget about that, that doesn't need to be done at the outset, they could put that off for years
 
Re: Liverpool Red Sox

Prestwich_Blue said:
SWPISHOME said:
Hicks and Gillette took out a loan to buy Liverpool FC they didnt buy the club out of there own money.....
Hicks and Gillette have 9 more days to pay the debt to the RBS which is £237m, Broughton and Purslow were sent into Liverpool FC as Chairman and Chief Executive by RBS to find a new owner to remove Hicks and Gillette from the Football Club. So the American Owners have no say in whats going to happen to the Football Club unless they find themselves another shareholder to bring into the Club that can clear the debt in the next 9 days, So more or less Hicks and Gillette are clutching at straws because the Boston Red Socks deal will go through.
I don't think you quite understand the relationship betwene shareholders and directors and also the specific agreements reached between RBS, H&G and the other directors.

As far as I'm aware Hicks & Gillett own all or nearly all the shares in LFC and it doesn't particularly matter how they financed the purchase it that sense. So they are the owners at the moment. They are also directors. The other three directors (Broughton, Purslow & Ayres) are not shareholders.

Directors have a primary duty of care to their shareholders in the running and sale of a company and have to exercise their power in the supposed best interests of those shareholders. Where there's a conflict of interest (as there is here) involving an individual who is both a director and major shareholder (i.e. Hicks & Gillett) then those individuals should step aside from any decision making.

Therefore in one sense, the three remaining members of the board are quite able to make a decision to sell the club without H&G and I suspect the court will find in their favour quite easily. There were also supposed to be agreements in place to cover this situation and Broughton is claiming that H&G have breached these.

However there's then the issue of whether the board acted in the best interests of their shareholders by selling at too cheap a price so a court will have to decide whether the price they accepted was fair and reasonable in the circumstances. H&G will presumably claim not and Broughton will claim it was. The likelihood (in my eyes) is that H&G will lose again. See m'learned friend Projectriver's posts for why.

However, this could all be short-circuited by RBS's actions. The loan is due for repayment by 15 Oct and if H&G are in default they incur a penalty and RBS, as a creditor, can call in the administrators to Kop Holdings (not LFC). They (the adminstrators) will then be able to sell it. It might also be that RBS can take over the shares in the event of a specified default, as could happen to the Glazers with their PIK notes.

M'learned....well said M'lud. :)
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

bluemoon32 said:
bluemanc said:
The guy with the Rounders francise that's struggling through lack of finance in the USA has a personal fortune of $375 million & will bring no debt to liverpool.
£400 million new ground.
£350 million the takeover.
£100 million on new players.
£50 million legal fees.
We have some very bright people on here concerning money,please explain how this works without using debt to buy liverpool.

£400 million new ground.
Forget about that, that doesn't need to be done at the outset, they could put that off for years

he promised a new stadium for the red sox before he took over and thats the last time it was mentioned. This guy will sell within 12 months and walk of with about £150 - £250million as the club is worth £600 million.
Don't confuse baseball with football, 160 games a season, the only club in Boston, and virtually no transfers, a wage cap which if exceded a club will beliable to the luxury tax. The rags have been successfull on the pitch, which is why they have been able to secure such good sponsorship. This is not going to happen here, it will be a buy on the cheap and a sale which rakes in some decent money. The next buyer will be the important one.
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

VOOMER said:
bluemoon32 said:
£400 million new ground.
Forget about that, that doesn't need to be done at the outset, they could put that off for years

he promised a new stadium for the red sox before he took over and thats the last time it was mentioned. This guy will sell within 12 months and walk of with about £150 - £250million as the club is worth £600 million.
Don't confuse baseball with football, 160 games a season, the only club in Boston, and virtually no transfers, a wage cap which if exceded a club will beliable to the luxury tax. The rags have been successfull on the pitch, which is why they have been able to secure such good sponsorship. This is not going to happen here, it will be a buy on the cheap and a sale which rakes in some decent money. The next buyer will be the important one.

I've got about £16 in change, i don't want to use all of that though
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

bluemoon32 said:
£400 million new ground.
Forget about that, that doesn't need to be done at the outset, they could put that off for years

True but the longer they leave it the more money they'll be losing under the FFPR. My knowledge is limited with regard to football finance but I'd have thought the sooner the better?
 
If anyone wants to check out their articles you can do so for £1

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I suspect this won't be the full story as there will undoubtedly be relevant terms in the loan agreements with the bank which might protect certain directors... similarly there may also be a shareholders agreement if the bank has any equity.
 
found this quite funny

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/red-sox-owner-fulfills-boyhood-passion-for-whingeing-thieves-201010063141/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/spo ... 010063141/</a>
 
Re: Liverpool Takeover Imminent?

VOOMER said:
bluemoon32 said:
£400 million new ground.
Forget about that, that doesn't need to be done at the outset, they could put that off for years

he promised a new stadium for the red sox before he took over and thats the last time it was mentioned. This guy will sell within 12 months and walk of with about £150 - £250million as the club is worth £600 million.
Don't confuse baseball with football, 160 games a season, the only club in Boston, and virtually no transfers, a wage cap which if exceded a club will beliable to the luxury tax. The rags have been successfull on the pitch, which is why they have been able to secure such good sponsorship. This is not going to happen here, it will be a buy on the cheap and a sale which rakes in some decent money. The next buyer will be the important one.

Are you having a laugh?

Don't you think if it was that simple people would be queueing up to buy them????
 
Cambridgeblue said:
If anyone wants to check out their articles you can do so for £1

<a class="postlink" href="http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/c15a9f50525d6e9531d8bb3a706d8581/wcprodorder?ft=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/c15a9 ... order?ft=1</a>

I suspect this won't be the full story as there will undoubtedly be relevant terms in the loan agreements with the bank which might protect certain directors... similarly there may also be a shareholders agreement if the bank has any equity.
It's only a bloody £,get it paid & get them up on here,you are allowed £50 worth of stuff so you would be best buying everything relevant,cheers.
 

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