Liverpool Thread 2012/13

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Can't see Liverpool getting back to the top for a very long while, and if they ever produce players like Gerrard, Carragher and Owen again, they'll see no reason to stay there. Honestly couldn't picture them winning the league (their dominance was before me).

This is precisely the point that fans of Liverpool conspicuously fail to grasp.

The system is so inherently unfair. Any team finishing 5th-8th will find it increasingly difficult to keep hold of their best players as the gap between them and City, united, Arsenal and Chelsea continues to widen.

I am sure they grasp that reality by the way. What they refuse to come to terms with is that it was their naked greed that created this state of affairs in the first place.

I didn't hear many screams from their supporters about how unfair it all was, and how much they hated modern football when they were qualifying for the Champions League every year, lording it over the likes of us and sweeping up the best talent from those on their coat-tails every summer.

They talk about the way our club is run without any regard for the fact that without the intervention of FSG they would have gone into administration. Since that takeover they have had to be propped up by their owners. How is that a model for "doing it the right way"?

It's funny, some of them still talk about us as a "nothing club". We've never been a nothing club. Prior to 2008 we had as colourful and interesting a narrative as any football club in this country, something that any true supporter of the game would truly appreciate, rather than dismiss as "nothing".

So I won't fall into the same trap. Liverpool are a great club, with a great storyboard. They have, in the main, great supporters (RAWK apart) who can rightly be proud of themselves about the way they have handled the post-Hillsborough landscape.

They are not a nothing club, but they are currently far, far less important in English football than we are. The reason for that, when all's said and done, was a takeover of our club that occurred a little under five years ago. A takeover that came about because of the vast sums of money that were washing around the English game, especially at the very top.

This is a landscape that Liverpool, in conjunction with united, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs created all those years ago. They saw an opportunity to enrich themselves at others' expense and for some of them it has paid off. For others it has not. That is the risk you take when you move the pieces on the board. You change the dynamic of the game and factors that you cannot possibly conceive of come in to play.

That is what has happened to Liverpool. They've gambled and failed. Don't blame us or our owners for this state of affairs.

LFC thought little about City back then, or its supporters, other than a little "fuck you" to themselves, no doubt. "We're alright, that's the main thing".

Sat here now, all those years later, I am more than happy to reciprocate those sentiments and to thank you with all my heart for making it all possible.

 

[zeven]

Can't see Liverpool getting back to the top for a very long while, and if they ever produce players like Gerrard, Carragher and Owen again, they'll see no reason to stay there. Honestly couldn't picture them winning the league (their dominance was before me).

This is precisely the point that fans of Liverpool conspicuously fail to grasp.

The system is so inherently unfair. Any team finishing 5th-8th will find it increasingly difficult to keep hold of their best players as the gap between them and City, united, Arsenal and Chelsea continues to widen.

I am sure they grasp that reality by the way. What they refuse to come to terms with is that it was their naked greed that created this state of affairs in the first place.

I didn't hear many screams from their supporters about how unfair it all was, and how much they hated modern football when they were qualifying for the Champions League every year, lording it over the likes of us and sweeping up the best talent from those on their coat-tails every summer.

They talk about the way our club is run without any regard for the fact that without the intervention of FSG they would have gone into administration. Since that takeover they have had to be propped up by their owners. How is that a model for "doing it the right way"?

It's funny, some of them still talk about us as a "nothing club". We've never been a nothing club. Prior to 2008 we had as colourful and interesting a narrative as any football club in this country, something that any true supporter of the game would truly appreciate, rather than dismiss as "nothing".

So I won't fall into the same trap. Liverpool are a great club, with a great storyboard. They have, in the main, great supporters (RAWK apart) who can rightly be proud of themselves about the way they have handled the post-Hillsborough landscape.

They are not a nothing club, but they are currently far, far less important in English football than we are. The reason for that, when all's said and done, was a takeover that occurred a little under five years ago. A takeover that came about because of the vast sums of money that were washing around the English game, especially at the very top.

This is a landscape that Liverpool, in conjunction with united, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs created all those years ago. They saw an opportunity to enrich themselves at others' expense and for some of them it has paid off. For others it has not. That is the risk you take when you move then pieces on the board. You change the dynamic of the game and factors that you cannot possibly conceive of come in to play.

That is what has happened to Liverpool. They've gambled and failed. Don't blame us or our owners for this state of affairs.

LFC thought little about City back then, or its supporters, other than a little "fuck you" to yourselves no doubt. "We're alright, that's the main thing".

Sat here now, all those years later, I am more than happy to reciprocate those sentiments and to thank you with all my heart for making it all possible

An excellent post mate, one of the best i have read for while

 

[stony]

Can't see Liverpool getting back to the top for a very long while, and if they ever produce players like Gerrard, Carragher and Owen again, they'll see no reason to stay there. Honestly couldn't picture them winning the league (their dominance was before me).

This is precisely the point that fans of Liverpool conspicuously fail to grasp.

The system is so inherently unfair. Any team finishing 5th-8th will find it increasingly difficult to keep hold of their best players as the gap between them and City, united, Arsenal and Chelsea continues to widen.

I am sure they grasp that reality by the way. What they refuse to come to terms with is that it was their naked greed that created this state of affairs in the first place.

I didn't hear many screams from their supporters about how unfair it all was, and how much they hated modern football when they were qualifying for the Champions League every year, lording it over the likes of us and sweeping up the best talent from those on their coat-tails every summer.

They talk about the way our club is run without any regard for the fact that without the intervention of FSG they would have gone into administration. Since that takeover they have had to be propped up by their owners. How is that a model for "doing it the right way"?

It's funny, some of them still talk about us as a "nothing club". We've never been a nothing club. Prior to 2008 we had as colourful and interesting a narrative as any football club in this country, something that any true supporter of the game would truly appreciate, rather than dismiss as "nothing".

So I won't fall into the same trap. Liverpool are a great club, with a great storyboard. They have, in the main, great supporters (RAWK apart) who can rightly be proud of themselves about the way they have handled the post-Hillsborough landscape.

They are not a nothing club, but they are currently far, far less important in English football than we are. The reason for that, when all's said and done, was a takeover that occurred a little under five years ago. A takeover that came about because of the vast sums of money that were washing around the English game, especially at the very top.

This is a landscape that Liverpool, in conjunction with united, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs created all those years ago. They saw an opportunity to enrich themselves at others' expense and for some of them it has paid off. For others it has not. That is the risk you take when you move then pieces on the board. You change the dynamic of the game and factors that you cannot possibly conceive of come in to play.

That is what has happened to Liverpool. They've gambled and failed. Don't blame us or our owners for this state of affairs.

LFC thought little about City back then, or its supporters, other than a little "fuck you" to themselves, no doubt. "We're alright, that's the main thing".

Sat here now, all those years later, I am more than happy to reciprocate those sentiments and to thank you with all my heart for making it all possible

Take a bow GDM, you should post that on RAWK, but add the word 'la' at the end of your last sentence.

 

[Rammyblues]

Thread would get locked if that was posted on RAWK. :-)

 

[zeven]

Thread would get locked if that was posted on RAWK. :-)

They would probably try do lock down the entire internet.

 

[Worst Case Ontario]

The whole Suarez saga is starting to remind me our Tevez story, still thin he will stay

 

[mcmanus]

Thread would get locked if that was posted on RAWK. :-)

South Korea would get bombed if that was posted of RAWK.

 

[laserblue]

Can't see Liverpool getting back to the top for a very long while, and if they ever produce players like Gerrard, Carragher and Owen again, they'll see no reason to stay there. Honestly couldn't picture them winning the league (their dominance was before me).

This is precisely the point that fans of Liverpool conspicuously fail to grasp.

The system is so inherently unfair. Any team finishing 5th-8th will find it increasingly difficult to keep hold of their best players as the gap between them and City, united, Arsenal and Chelsea continues to widen.

I am sure they grasp that reality by the way. What they refuse to come to terms with is that it was their naked greed that created this state of affairs in the first place.

I didn't hear many screams from their supporters about how unfair it all was, and how much they hated modern football when they were qualifying for the Champions League every year, lording it over the likes of us and sweeping up the best talent from those on their coat-tails every summer.

They talk about the way our club is run without any regard for the fact that without the intervention of FSG they would have gone into administration. Since that takeover they have had to be propped up by their owners. How is that a model for "doing it the right way"?

It's funny, some of them still talk about us as a "nothing club". We've never been a nothing club. Prior to 2008 we had as colourful and interesting a narrative as any football club in this country, something that any true supporter of the game would truly appreciate, rather than dismiss as "nothing".

So I won't fall into the same trap. Liverpool are a great club, with a great storyboard. They have, in the main, great supporters (RAWK apart) who can rightly be proud of themselves about the way they have handled the post-Hillsborough landscape.

They are not a nothing club, but they are currently far, far less important in English football than we are. The reason for that, when all's said and done, was a takeover that occurred a little under five years ago. A takeover that came about because of the vast sums of money that were washing around the English game, especially at the very top.

This is a landscape that Liverpool, in conjunction with united, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs created all those years ago. They saw an opportunity to enrich themselves at others' expense and for some of them it has paid off. For others it has not. That is the risk you take when you move then pieces on the board. You change the dynamic of the game and factors that you cannot possibly conceive of come in to play.

That is what has happened to Liverpool. They've gambled and failed. Don't blame us or our owners for this state of affairs.

LFC thought little about City back then, or its supporters, other than a little "fuck you" to themselves, no doubt. "We're alright, that's the main thing".

Sat here now, all those years later, I am more than happy to reciprocate those sentiments and to thank you with all my heart for making it all possible

Top post GDM. The whole cause and effect of Liverpool's situation in a nutshell. Well done mate.

 

[BertTrautmann'sParachute]

Can't see Liverpool getting back to the top for a very long while, and if they ever produce players like Gerrard, Carragher and Owen again, they'll see no reason to stay there. Honestly couldn't picture them winning the league (their dominance was before me).

This is precisely the point that fans of Liverpool conspicuously fail to grasp.

The system is so inherently unfair. Any team finishing 5th-8th will find it increasingly difficult to keep hold of their best players as the gap between them and City, united, Arsenal and Chelsea continues to widen.

I am sure they grasp that reality by the way. What they refuse to come to terms with is that it was their naked greed that created this state of affairs in the first place.

I didn't hear many screams from their supporters about how unfair it all was, and how much they hated modern football when they were qualifying for the Champions League every year, lording it over the likes of us and sweeping up the best talent from those on their coat-tails every summer.

They talk about the way our club is run without any regard for the fact that without the intervention of FSG they would have gone into administration. Since that takeover they have had to be propped up by their owners. How is that a model for "doing it the right way"?

It's funny, some of them still talk about us as a "nothing club". We've never been a nothing club. Prior to 2008 we had as colourful and interesting a narrative as any football club in this country, something that any true supporter of the game would truly appreciate, rather than dismiss as "nothing".

So I won't fall into the same trap. Liverpool are a great club, with a great storyboard. They have, in the main, great supporters (RAWK apart) who can rightly be proud of themselves about the way they have handled the post-Hillsborough landscape.

They are not a nothing club, but they are currently far, far less important in English football than we are. The reason for that, when all's said and done, was a takeover that occurred a little under five years ago. A takeover that came about because of the vast sums of money that were washing around the English game, especially at the very top.

This is a landscape that Liverpool, in conjunction with united, Arsenal, Everton and Spurs created all those years ago. They saw an opportunity to enrich themselves at others' expense and for some of them it has paid off. For others it has not. That is the risk you take when you move then pieces on the board. You change the dynamic of the game and factors that you cannot possibly conceive of come in to play.

That is what has happened to Liverpool. They've gambled and failed. Don't blame us or our owners for this state of affairs.

LFC thought little about City back then, or its supporters, other than a little "fuck you" to themselves, no doubt. "We're alright, that's the main thing".

Sat here now, all those years later, I am more than happy to reciprocate those sentiments and to thank you with all my heart for making it all possible

Nail on the head!

 

[jimharri]

''So Brendan; about those envelopes....''