Liverpool Thread 2013/14 (continued)

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Damocles said:
They're fucked.

They are losing £50m a year consistently. Their owners are loaning them money to cover it. They already owe them £70m on top of the £50m they owe the bank and they've automatically failed FFP because this hasn't been converted to equity.

They have brainwashed the scousers by telling them that these losses are something to do with one off fees about the old stadium but it's bollocks. Their exceptional items this year were £2m. They paid their stadium costs by restructuring debt.

They have also pointed to a commercial revenue growth from £63m to £97m as a big victory for them but they freely admit in their actual accounts that this is because they submitted 10 months of accounts in 2012 and the difference is down to having a full year.

Then scousers point to a line that says that their profit before player trading is £15m. But this doesn't take into account amortisation either so you may as way discount the wage bill if we're just throwing costs out of the window as markers of success.

I'm telling you know, they've no money to spend in the summer. They have to sell Suarez or plunge the club into further debt to buy players.
It's fucking hilarious watching Liverpool fans trying to differentiate their owners' largesse from ours, by whatever means they can, in order to justify it and make it more noble.

It is essentially the same concept. Only the amounts differ. Without the support of their owners they wouldn't be where they are now in the table. That is indisputable.

Not sure they're 'fucked' though Damo. The CL money and the increased TV deal should change the landscape for them significantly, as it will for us. Liverpool fans in particular are going to be in for an 'orrible shock when they see the turnover and profits that we're going to start posting in two or three years time, that's for sure.
 
Nah we'll just be cooking the books to them GDM. Ask the extra revenue will do next year is allow them to try and fill 2-3 squad places imo and for all the success of suarez, sturridge and coutinho, they've wasted money on dross under fsg as well, there's no guarantee any signings they make will be successful.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Damocles said:
They're fucked.

They are losing £50m a year consistently. Their owners are loaning them money to cover it. They already owe them £70m on top of the £50m they owe the bank and they've automatically failed FFP because this hasn't been converted to equity.

They have brainwashed the scousers by telling them that these losses are something to do with one off fees about the old stadium but it's bollocks. Their exceptional items this year were £2m. They paid their stadium costs by restructuring debt.

They have also pointed to a commercial revenue growth from £63m to £97m as a big victory for them but they freely admit in their actual accounts that this is because they submitted 10 months of accounts in 2012 and the difference is down to having a full year.

Then scousers point to a line that says that their profit before player trading is £15m. But this doesn't take into account amortisation either so you may as way discount the wage bill if we're just throwing costs out of the window as markers of success.

I'm telling you know, they've no money to spend in the summer. They have to sell Suarez or plunge the club into further debt to buy players.
It's fucking hilarious watching Liverpool fans trying to differentiate their owners' largesse from ours, by whatever means they can, in order to justify it and make it more noble.

It is essentially the same concept. Only the amounts differ. Without the support of their owners they wouldn't be where they are now in the table. That is indisputable.

Not sure they're 'fucked' though Damo. The CL money and the increased TV deal should change the landscape for them significantly, as it will for us. Liverpool fans in particular are going to be in for an 'orrible shock when they see the turnover and profits that we're going to start posting in two or three years time, that's for sure.

But EVERYBODY gets those increases in the TV deal so wages will rise at the same rate. We'll be seeing our first £300k+ player in England soon.

The CL money and TV revenue might move them into profitability but as I say, they will have to spend this summer just to stay where they are. To pass FFP they have to make a £100m profit THIS year. So not only have they failed it for next seson they've failed it for the season after and potentially the season after that.

Their owners wioll be gone within 2 years, guarantee it
 
Damocles said:
But EVERYBODY gets those increases in the TV deal so wages will rise at the same rate. We'll be seeing our first £300k+ player in England soon.

Saw him Tuesday night didnt we?
 
Damocles said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Damocles said:
They're fucked.

They are losing £50m a year consistently. Their owners are loaning them money to cover it. They already owe them £70m on top of the £50m they owe the bank and they've automatically failed FFP because this hasn't been converted to equity.

They have brainwashed the scousers by telling them that these losses are something to do with one off fees about the old stadium but it's bollocks. Their exceptional items this year were £2m. They paid their stadium costs by restructuring debt.

They have also pointed to a commercial revenue growth from £63m to £97m as a big victory for them but they freely admit in their actual accounts that this is because they submitted 10 months of accounts in 2012 and the difference is down to having a full year.

Then scousers point to a line that says that their profit before player trading is £15m. But this doesn't take into account amortisation either so you may as way discount the wage bill if we're just throwing costs out of the window as markers of success.

I'm telling you know, they've no money to spend in the summer. They have to sell Suarez or plunge the club into further debt to buy players.
It's fucking hilarious watching Liverpool fans trying to differentiate their owners' largesse from ours, by whatever means they can, in order to justify it and make it more noble.

It is essentially the same concept. Only the amounts differ. Without the support of their owners they wouldn't be where they are now in the table. That is indisputable.

Not sure they're 'fucked' though Damo. The CL money and the increased TV deal should change the landscape for them significantly, as it will for us. Liverpool fans in particular are going to be in for an 'orrible shock when they see the turnover and profits that we're going to start posting in two or three years time, that's for sure.

But EVERYBODY gets those increases in the TV deal so wages will rise at the same rate. We'll be seeing our first £300k+ player in England soon.

The CL money and TV revenue might move them into profitability but as I say, they will have to spend this summer just to stay where they are. To pass FFP they have to make a £100m profit THIS year. So not only have they failed it for next seson they've failed it for the season after and potentially the season after that.

Their owners wioll be gone within 2 years, guarantee it

Rooney is 300K, no?

In any case I'm indifferent to owners provided that they are not actively, and intentionally killing the club.

Was it like that back in the day, or is this a new internet thing? DId the fans always worry about the suits and accountants?
 
Blame Gill Rumenegge and Platini mate.
superseiyan said:
Damocles said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It's fucking hilarious watching Liverpool fans trying to differentiate their owners' largesse from ours, by whatever means they can, in order to justify it and make it more noble.

It is essentially the same concept. Only the amounts differ. Without the support of their owners they wouldn't be where they are now in the table. That is indisputable.

Not sure they're 'fucked' though Damo. The CL money and the increased TV deal should change the landscape for them significantly, as it will for us. Liverpool fans in particular are going to be in for an 'orrible shock when they see the turnover and profits that we're going to start posting in two or three years time, that's for sure.

But EVERYBODY gets those increases in the TV deal so wages will rise at the same rate. We'll be seeing our first £300k+ player in England soon.

The CL money and TV revenue might move them into profitability but as I say, they will have to spend this summer just to stay where they are. To pass FFP they have to make a £100m profit THIS year. So not only have they failed it for next seson they've failed it for the season after and potentially the season after that.

Their owners wioll be gone within 2 years, guarantee it

Rooney is 300K, no?

In any case I'm indifferent to owners provided that they are not actively, and intentionally killing the club.

Was it like that back in the day, or is this a new internet thing? DId the fans always worry about the suits and accountants?
 
It was always like that to teams who weren't in the tent pissing out. Now you're not in the big club club you're discovering it.
 
Ha Ha

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Hamann Pineapple said:

I could never be a Liverpool fan purely because it would spend my entire life cringing at the frankly bizarre groupthink their supporters have.

Oh, another financial note. Liverpool spent £200k less last year on their community outreach.
 
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