Liverpool Thread 2014/15

[M18CTID]

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at the City thread on RAWK and the comments of QC. The guy is ostensibly intelligent yet has absolutely no knowledge of the financial landscape of football pre-Sheikh Mansour, or his club's predilection for altering rules to ensure a hegemony is forever retained. He blames City for preventing clubs like Aston Villa ever growing and refuses to acknowledge the top 3 cartel of Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool even before Abramovich.

A classic case of re-writing history. Some of us are old enough to remember the so-called "Big 5" clubs that carved up the TV rights back in the 1980's to suit their own ends while the rest of the clubs ended up with a fucking pittance.

I'd actually argue that the arrival of the Sheikh in 2008 has helped smash the cartel to smithereens due to the fact that they thought their positions in the top 4 were pretty much guaranteed forever giving them access to all that CL cash, save the odd shit league season a la Liverpool 2004-05, and they foolishly rested on their laurels for too long as a result.

As for stopping Aston Villa, well Randy Lerner initially tried to do at Villa Park what the Sheikh is doing now and that is to buy themselves into the top 4 so it's a crock of shit that we've prevented Villa from growing when they were employing exactly the same tactics as we have except that Randy's pockets aren't as deep and they didn't have a long-term business plan going forward.

 

[pudge]

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at the City thread on RAWK and the comments of QC. The guy is ostensibly intelligent yet has absolutely no knowledge of the financial landscape of football pre-Sheikh Mansour, or his club's predilection for altering rules to ensure a hegemony is forever retained. He blames City for preventing clubs like Aston Villa ever growing and refuses to acknowledge the top 3 cartel of Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool even before Abramovich.

To save some people the time I can sum up his thoughts on the matter;

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[Prestwich_Blue]

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at the City thread on RAWK and the comments of QC. The guy is ostensibly intelligent yet has absolutely no knowledge of the financial landscape of football pre-Sheikh Mansour, or his club's predilection for altering rules to ensure a hegemony is forever retained. He blames City for preventing clubs like Aston Villa ever growing and refuses to acknowledge the top 3 cartel of Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool even before Abramovich.

A classic case of re-writing history. Some of us are old enough to remember the so-called "Big 5" clubs that carved up the TV rights back in the 1980's to suit their own ends while the rest of the clubs ended up with a fucking pittance.

I'd actually argue that the arrival of the Sheikh in 2008 has helped smash the cartel to smithereens due to the fact that they thought their positions in the top 4 were pretty much guaranteed forever giving them access to all that CL cash, save the odd shit league season a la Liverpool 2004-05, and they foolishly rested on their laurels for too long as a result.

They blackmailed the rest of the league into surrendering their share of gate receipts from their away games in the early 1980's, which opened a gap, were instrumental in setting up the PL, which widened that gap, and were part of the G-14 that ensured CL revenue kept their cartel in the elite group of European clubs.

But even when you point that out they come back with "But we weren't given it, we earned it!" failing to realise that they earned it in the same way a burglar, kidnapper or protection racketeer earns their money. You can probably use the analogy of the Co-op, which was the dominant food retailer after the war for quite a few years. Then others came along who were prepared to invest more money and could execute retail processes better. So they lost out to them and are now in the second tier of food retailers. Liverpool thought their 'istree entitled them to always eat at the top table and they're finding now that it counts for very little.

 

[IH8MUFC]

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at the City thread on RAWK and the comments of QC. The guy is ostensibly intelligent yet has absolutely no knowledge of the financial landscape of football pre-Sheikh Mansour, or his club's predilection for altering rules to ensure a hegemony is forever retained. He blames City for preventing clubs like Aston Villa ever growing and refuses to acknowledge the top 3 cartel of Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool even before Abramovich.

A classic case of re-writing history. Some of us are old enough to remember the so-called "Big 5" clubs that carved up the TV rights back in the 1980's to suit their own ends while the rest of the clubs ended up with a fucking pittance.

I'd actually argue that the arrival of the Sheikh in 2008 has helped smash the cartel to smithereens due to the fact that they thought their positions in the top 4 were pretty much guaranteed forever giving them access to all that CL cash, save the odd shit league season a la Liverpool 2004-05, and they foolishly rested on their laurels for too long as a result.

As for stopping Aston Villa, well Randy Lerner initially tried to do at Villa Park what the Sheikh is doing now and that is to buy themselves into the top 4 so it's a crock of shit that we've prevented Villa from growing when they were employing exactly the same tactics as we have except that Randy's pockets aren't as deep and they didn't have a long-term business plan going forward.

Lerner is a businessman. Football fans seem to forget how much buying a player actually costs.

He came spent a lot of money. He wasn't making it back and like anybody with half a brain would do tried to balance the books. Just have to look at clubs like Portsmouth and Leeds that keep overspending.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

And when they talk about our owner pumping money in, their owner has just lent them £140m (interest free) to finance the building of the main stand extension. Had they needed to find that money themselves, it would reduce their ability to buy players and pay top wages significantly for a few years, just like Arsenal.

I wonder just how much FSG have pumped into them over the last 4 years?

 

[moomba]

I wish I could find it but there was an article a few years back saying that Sheikh Mansour should try and be more like Randy Lerner, the "model foreign owner".

Oh, Liverpool thread. Anyone found RAWKs discussion on FFP yet?

 

[deano ou812]

If anyone fancies a laugh have a look at the City thread on RAWK and the comments of QC. The guy is ostensibly intelligent yet has absolutely no knowledge of the financial landscape of football pre-Sheikh Mansour, or his club's predilection for altering rules to ensure a hegemony is forever retained. He blames City for preventing clubs like Aston Villa ever growing and refuses to acknowledge the top 3 cartel of Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool even before Abramovich.

Think your being kind to him there,it seems he is totally clueless and like a large proportion of their fanbase, cnuts one and all....

 

[pudge]

I wish I could find it but there was an article a few years back saying that Sheikh Mansour should try and be more like Randy Lerner, the "model foreign owner".

Oh, Liverpool thread. Anyone found RAWKs discussion on FFP yet?

They don't even allow threads on individual players, a FFP thread would have the forum in quarantine.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I wish I could find it but there was an article a few years back saying that Sheikh Mansour should try and be more like Randy Lerner, the "model foreign owner".

Oh, Liverpool thread. Anyone found RAWKs discussion on FFP yet?

Still looking mate.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

And when they talk about our owner pumping money in, their owner has just lent them £140m (interest free) to finance the building of the main stand extension. Had they needed to find that money themselves, it would reduce their ability to buy players and pay top wages significantly for a few years, just like Arsenal.

I wonder just how much FSG have pumped into them over the last 4 years?

Not arguing with you but isn't it a loan from the middle east somewhere ?