Liverpool Thread 2014/15

[Blue Haze]

Why? Because we didn't beat the best team in the league at their place?

Too early to make sweeping conclusions other than you are looking very settled and assured, while we have a Gerrard problem.

True, too early for conclusions. Markovic looks a steal at his price.

Not sure Lovren fits well with Skrtel. Balotelli... that's a ride I wish we'd never gone on. If you don't have gray hair now, just wait.

 

[keith's curle]

That game was pretty much as I expected. Thought Liverpool looked decent and would have been too much for many sides, some nice through balls and incisive runs. If they still had Suarez they would have converted one of their chances somewhere along the line, but Mario will be a step back in the right direction. Should be able to stay top 4 despite not really addressing their defensive problems.

Skrtl is still a thug. Can (is it pronounced Chan?), by the book at least, should have got a second yellow for that blatant dive. Markovic (sp?) looked good for a short while until Navas came on and pegged him back.

All in all the team might be more .......balanced?, ...rounded?, ..., can't quite come up with the term to describe it properly.

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Just realised what I was trying to say, they look less one dimensional. Although, I'm now beginning to doubt myself!

 

[Groke]

Skrtel deserves a thread of his own, what a fuckin horrible dirty **** he is.

 

[BigOscar]

Moreno looks like a leftsided Glen Johnson, constantly at least 10 yards out of position, trying to use his pace to make up for it. Lovren looks as slow and overrated as I think he is and Can looked pretty poor (and a terrible diver, genuinely one of the worst attempts at a dive you'll see). It doesn't look like the defence is going to be any better at all this year.

A lot more attacking options this year though, although a real lack of genuine chances being created. If they manage to get Mario, Sturridge, Sterling and Markovic into the side at the same time then they'll be terrifying on the break though.

It looks like it might be a real fight to stay in the top 4 if Spurs start looking like a team and the rags blow money out of their arse for the next week.

 

[mrbelfry]

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks. Can't see Sturridge and Mario working well together but can see Mario doing well if they get the ball to him quickly enough.

 

[supercrystal7]

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks. Can't see Sturridge and Mario working well together but can see Mario doing well if they get the ball to him quickly enough.

They have not had the preseason they would have liked with the world cup and the new signings to be at peak physical fitness and even then it is only doors, but I don't think they will be able to be as intense this season anyway. Off the top of my head I think they played 13 games less than Chelsea, City and Arsenal. These weren't just easier games that City, Arsenal and Chelsea were playing, but high intensity cup games or against the highest quality opposition, which were both mentally and physically draining. Liverpool are third seeds I think and will probably get a tough group draining them even more.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Piss off you sanctimonious twat.

I'd rather share a pint with the slugs and snails in my garden than this slimy bastard Rodgers.

He fucking irritates me to an unhealthy level. And that diving fucker Can should have been sent off.

 

[Marvin]

Liverpool started OK, but were well beaten in the end, and they missed Suarez - hardly surprising

Time needed to bed the new players in. It took Spurs a season to do that, but then they changed manager half way through and were not starting from the same level

Gerrard looked well off the pace. I think they should have replaced him in the Summer, but they daren't for sentimental reasons.

Will be interesting to see how Liverpool incorporate Balotelli. I don't think it will work. In fact it could send Liverpool backwards, but he has ability and must know this is his last chance.

 

[squirtyflower]

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks. Can't see Sturridge and Mario working well together but can see Mario doing well if they get the ball to him quickly enough.

They have not had the preseason they would have liked with the world cup and the new signings to be at peak physical fitness and even then it is only doors, but I don't think they will be able to be as intense this season anyway. Off the top of my head I think they played 13 games less than Chelsea, City and Arsenal. These weren't just easier games that City, Arsenal and Chelsea were playing, but high intensity cup games or against the highest quality opposition, which were both mentally and physically draining. Liverpool are third seeds I think and will probably get a tough group draining them even more.

Oh and we have had the perfect pre-season with all our players available

You come on here regularly putting opinions up as facts, give it a fucking rest when we've just beat the champions 3-1

 

[supercrystal7]

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks. Can't see Sturridge and Mario working well together but can see Mario doing well if they get the ball to him quickly enough.

They have not had the preseason they would have liked with the world cup and the new signings to be at peak physical fitness and even then it is only doors, but I don't think they will be able to be as intense this season anyway. Off the top of my head I think they played 13 games less than Chelsea, City and Arsenal. These weren't just easier games that City, Arsenal and Chelsea were playing, but high intensity cup games or against the highest quality opposition, which were both mentally and physically draining. Liverpool are third seeds I think and will probably get a tough group draining them even more.

Oh and we have the perfect pre-season

You come on here regularly putting opinions upas facts, give it a fucking rest when we've just beat the champions 3-1

I am not even sure what your point is ? None of the big teams have had the perfect preseason due to the world cup and so none of them have hit the season at their peak form. . I was very impressed with City and said as much when discussing City, but this is about Liverpool and why they have less intensity than last season.

As for putting my opinion forward in a confident manner I don't apologise for that. If somebody cannot tell the difference between someone expressing the opinion they hold to be true and stating a fact that is his or her own problem. I give my opinions and I am happy to debate any disagreements. If we still do not agree then I am happy to say we will have to agree to disagree.

 

[MSP]

Candle for dippers:

Bill Shankly : "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win."

Think that covers it , read it , understand it, then switch your internet off.

 

[squirtyflower]

They have not had the preseason they would have liked with the world cup and the new signings to be at peak physical fitness and even then it is only doors, but I don't think they will be able to be as intense this season anyway. Off the top of my head I think they played 13 games less than Chelsea, City and Arsenal. These weren't just easier games that City, Arsenal and Chelsea were playing, but high intensity cup games or against the highest quality opposition, which were both mentally and physically draining. Liverpool are third seeds I think and will probably get a tough group draining them even more.

Oh and we have the perfect pre-season

You come on here regularly putting opinions upas facts, give it a fucking rest when we've just beat the champions 3-1

I am not even sure what your point is ? None of the big teams have had the perfect preseason due to the world cup and so none of them have hit the season at their peak form. . I was very impressed with City and said as much when discussing City, but this is about Liverpool and why they have less intensity than last season.

As for putting my opinion forward in a confident manner I don't apologise for that. If somebody cannot tell the difference between someone expressing the opinion they hold to be true and stating a fact that is his or her own problem. I give my opinions and I am happy to debate any disagreements. If we still do not agree then I am happy to say we will have to agree to disagree.

I really can't be arsed arguing with a sanctimonious **** as yourself so I'm only going to highlight your first missive
You defended the scousers because they hadn't had a full season

My incredibly difficult post to grasp was that ours was a slightly tad harder

 

[supercrystal7]

Oh and we have the perfect pre-season

You come on here regularly putting opinions upas facts, give it a fucking rest when we've just beat the champions 3-1

I am not even sure what your point is ? None of the big teams have had the perfect preseason due to the world cup and so none of them have hit the season at their peak form. . I was very impressed with City and said as much when discussing City, but this is about Liverpool and why they have less intensity than last season.

As for putting my opinion forward in a confident manner I don't apologise for that. If somebody cannot tell the difference between someone expressing the opinion they hold to be true and stating a fact that is his or her own problem. I give my opinions and I am happy to debate any disagreements. If we still do not agree then I am happy to say we will have to agree to disagree.

I really can't be arsed arguing with a sanctimonious c**t as yourself so I'm only going to highlight your first missive
You defended the scousers because they hadn't had a full season

My incredibly difficult post to grasp was that ours was a slightly tad harder

I am not bothered pretending to be hard on an internet forum. I like to discuss football.

I never defended Liverpool at all or made any comparisons to City. I was merely addressing why they lacked the intensity they had at the Etihad last season. It's not my problem you cannot follow the argument and jump to conclusions.

 

[aguero93:20]

I am not even sure what your point is ? None of the big teams have had the perfect preseason due to the world cup and so none of them have hit the season at their peak form. . I was very impressed with City and said as much when discussing City, but this is about Liverpool and why they have less intensity than last season.

As for putting my opinion forward in a confident manner I don't apologise for that. If somebody cannot tell the difference between someone expressing the opinion they hold to be true and stating a fact that is his or her own problem. I give my opinions and I am happy to debate any disagreements. If we still do not agree then I am happy to say we will have to agree to disagree.

I really can't be arsed arguing with a sanctimonious c**t as yourself so I'm only going to highlight your first missive
You defended the scousers because they hadn't had a full season

My incredibly difficult post to grasp was that ours was a slightly tad harder

I am not bothered pretending to be hard on an internet forum. I like to discuss football.

I never defended Liverpool at all or made any comparisons to City. I was merely addressing why they lacked the intensity they had at the Etihad last season. It's not my problem you cannot follow the argument and jump to conclusions.

We had more players at the world cup and a far worse pre season in prep terms, don't use it as an excuse for them. If we were at full speed today it would have been 5 or 6 nil.

 

[-nibz-]

Stole it from Redcafe but...lol

 

[Marvin]

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks. Can't see Sturridge and Mario working well together but can see Mario doing well if they get the ball to him quickly enough.

They have not had the preseason they would have liked with the world cup and the new signings to be at peak physical fitness and even then it is only doors, but I don't think they will be able to be as intense this season anyway. Off the top of my head I think they played 13 games less than Chelsea, City and Arsenal. These weren't just easier games that City, Arsenal and Chelsea were playing, but high intensity cup games or against the highest quality opposition, which were both mentally and physically draining. Liverpool are third seeds I think and will probably get a tough group draining them even more.

You got short shrift for that comment because it may well have been true in respect of Liverpool, but the pre-season preparation applies even more so to City. City have chosen to give several of their World Cup players an extended break so that they have had significantly less preparation than Newcastle and Liverpool players - and some City fans worried about this in advance of the season's start, because we were given a tough opening series of games.

 

[supercrystal7]

I really can't be arsed arguing with a sanctimonious c**t as yourself so I'm only going to highlight your first missive
You defended the scousers because they hadn't had a full season

My incredibly difficult post to grasp was that ours was a slightly tad harder

I am not bothered pretending to be hard on an internet forum. I like to discuss football.

I never defended Liverpool at all or made any comparisons to City. I was merely addressing why they lacked the intensity they had at the Etihad last season. It's not my problem you cannot follow the argument and jump to conclusions.

We had more players at the world cup and a far worse pre season in prep terms, don't use it as an excuse for them. If we were at full speed today it would have been 5 or 6 nil.

Once more why are people jumping to conclusions about things I never said or even implied.

This is what I said about the game.

Very impressive from City. They did not even go full out today and still crushed Liverpool. I predicted Chelsea to win the league, but Chelsea's weak central defenders and how good City looked may make me look foolish. Jovetic was class. Liverpool tried hard, but they just did not cause City enough problems and City easily picked them off and scored at will. So much more class on the ball and like the Newcastle game clinical with the chances.

If I was discussing City and someone had asked me why they were not quite as fluid (though worryingly just as defensively sound as the end of last season already) I would have made the comment about the lack of preseason, players not fully fit and some key players like Aguero and Fernandinho on the bench.

However, this is the Liverpool thread and someone noted that Liverpool were not as intense as last season. I then gave my reasons why and further elaborated that I thought that even with an ideal preseason they would be less intense this season.

EDIT
For emphasis again I replied to this comment specifically commenting on Liverpool's lack of intensity compared to the previous game.

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks.

 

[aguero93:20]

I am not bothered pretending to be hard on an internet forum. I like to discuss football.

I never defended Liverpool at all or made any comparisons to City. I was merely addressing why they lacked the intensity they had at the Etihad last season. It's not my problem you cannot follow the argument and jump to conclusions.

We had more players at the world cup and a far worse pre season in prep terms, don't use it as an excuse for them. If we were at full speed today it would have been 5 or 6 nil.

Once more why are people jumping to conclusions about things I never said or even implied.

This is what I said about the game.

Very impressive from City. They did not even go full out today and still crushed Liverpool. I predicted Chelsea to win the league, but Chelsea's weak central defenders and how good City looked may make me look foolish. Jovetic was class. Liverpool tried hard, but they just did not cause City enough problems and City easily picked them off and scored at will. So much more class on the ball and like the Newcastle game clinical with the chances.

If I was discussing City and someone had asked me why they were not quite as fluid (though worryingly just as defensively sound as the end of last season already) I would have made the comment about the lack of preseason, players not fully fit and some key players like Aguero and Fernandinho on the bench.

However, this is the Liverpool thread and someone noted that Liverpool were not as intense as last season. I then gave my reasons why and further elaborated that I thought that even with an ideal preseason they would be less intense this season.

EDIT
For emphasis again I replied to this comment specifically commenting on Liverpool's lack of intensity compared to the previous game.

They were less intense than last year. Still pressing well but without the super quick breaks.

Why don't you read back through the posts I replied to?

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

Personally, I can't see anything wrong with what Supercrytal said.

 

[bluwes]

Personally, I can't see anything wrong with what Supercrytal said.

Same here, I'm confused as to why people are having a go at him. maybe they have not read properly what he has posted, not sure.