Liverpool thread 2018/19

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The blue phantom said:
I posted this a few weeks ago which was on Rawk, And they wonder why folk don't want them to win the league!

"Sometimes it hits me how lucky I am to have grown up supporting Liverpool. I can't even fathom what it would be like supporting a team like Chelsea or City or Everton, where your mentality is so small-time that your favourite part of football is seeing another club fail. One of the reasons they hate Liverpool so much is because our fans really, really enjoy seeing our own club succeed. We're eternal optimists and if Liverpool win a trophy (or even if they just come close) it gets celebrated in the most joyous, visceral way. They're so worried about "never hearing the end of it" if we win the league this year that they're actively willing their own teams to lose. I think it's odd, Liverpool fans are the only set of support in the country that go to away games and just sing about their own club (United and Everton games excepted, and even then it's not even close to what those sets of fans sing). You won't hear such tiresome 'bantz' as 'Your support is fucking shit' or 'This is a library' coming from the travelling Kop. We don't sing about their past failures, we don't sing about poverty in their city, we don't sing about their teams potentially getting relegated - yet they hate us. The BBC published an article called 'Do neutral fans not want Liverpool to win the league, or is it just a social media myth?' a month ago and the best quote in the whole thing was this:

"Samuel Mooney, Nottingham Forest fan: I'd love to see them win it. Their fans don't bother me, they're just passionate and they believe in their team. The fact so many people hate them for their optimism is so typically English!"

I think he hit the nail on the head. God forbid a set of support might be optimistic or supportive or passionate. God forbid we give our team bus a welcome or sing 'and now you're gonna believe us'. God forbid that we care about seeing our own team do well. Frankly, even if we win nothing for the next thirty years I'd rather approach life with the attitude of a Liverpool fan than the attitude of a Chelsea fan. They deserve everything they get"
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The fact that he brings up welcoming the team bus after making the claim they only care about their own team is especially comical.

Either it was an intentional subtle allusion (very unlikely knowing the average poster on RAWK has the IQ of a particularly dull gallstone) or he lacks all self-awareness and capacity for introspection (much more likely, as that is a trait shared by most Liverpool supporters).
 
blue by birth said:
So basically you are admitting you are a fucking plastic fan
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If you want, basically I am not bothered really. Went home and away for years and then when the really big money came in and footballers more interested in money, and grounds charging fortunes to get in, semi finals at Wembley etc etc. I just thought I am not paying for all this, so I stopped. I still follow Liverpool on TV but I am not paying to watch them or any other side, most big clubs do not care about the fans. You only have to look at allocations for big games. Which club has objected. If in your opinion this makes me a "plastic " fan so be it. It will not cause me to lose any sleep.
 
chester57 said:
If you want, basically I am not bothered really. Went home and away for years and then when the really big money came in and footballers more interested in money, and grounds charging fortunes to get in, semi finals at Wembley etc etc. I just thought I am not paying for all this, so I stopped. I still follow Liverpool on TV but I am not paying to watch them or any other side, most big clubs do not care about the fans. You only have to look at allocations for big games. Which club has objected. If in your opinion this makes me a "plastic " fan so be it. It will not cause me to lose any sleep.
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Fair play to you, as far as I’m concerned.
 
Isn't that twice the BBC have tried to push an article that suggests, that "people don't really hate the idea of Liverpool winning the title"?

Or did the old one just resurface?

Is that not unsettling for anyone else? It's almost like they are trying to claim, everyone's perception of popular opinion is wrong, look at these cherry picked quotes... this is your new reality.

Have we ever seen them defend a club like that before? The City equivalent would be, we as City fans, know the popular held opinion on the way we do business and where our money comes from but they put out an article saying.... "People don't actually think City are an oil money club, it just seems like they do on twitter... they actually think *insert positive quote here*" It seems like it's night and day, the relationships the other top 6 clubs have with the media, compared to ours.
 
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chester57 said:
If you want, basically I am not bothered really. Went home and away for years and then when the really big money came in and footballers more interested in money, and grounds charging fortunes to get in, semi finals at Wembley etc etc. I just thought I am not paying for all this, so I stopped. I still follow Liverpool on TV but I am not paying to watch them or any other side, most big clubs do not care about the fans. You only have to look at allocations for big games. Which club has objected. If in your opinion this makes me a "plastic " fan so be it. It will not cause me to lose any sleep.
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So to sum up, you stopped going to games when you stopped winning the league every other season ;-)
 
Metalartin said:
Isn't that twice the BBC have tried to push an article that suggests, that "people don't really hate the idea of Liverpool winning the title"?

Or did the old one just resurface?

Is that not unsettling for anyone else? It's almost like they are trying to claim, everyone's perception of popular opinion is wrong, look at these cherry picked quotes... this is your new reality.
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Propaganda, first course. ;-)
 
Turned on sky sports half an hour ago, Phil Thompson babbling on about something so straight off.

Turned on again now, still talking about Liverpool and the presenter is telling me that van dijk is the only high cost arrival at anfield recently. Have they wiped Keita from the istree books already? Fabinho? Alisson?
 
chester57 said:
I didn't say I visited most forums. I look at this one as I can post and RAWK maybe once a week as I cannot post, not really a full time job. Maybe 30 minutes a week.
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So you post more on a City fan's forum than you do on your team's forum because You're not allowed to post? Doesn't that alone tell you everything you need to know about your fans?
 
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