Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Completely misunderstood the whole thing. We are not crying foul or whatever cliche you'd like to label us with, we are just pissed with the many decisions that have not gone our way when clearly they should have.

We have no right to win the league unchallenged season after season and not one person on these boards will, or has ever said that.

Btw, you're post isn't getting half the coverage it should.

Any chance you could hazard a guess at how many teams after every match/season that think they never get the decisions they think they should? I'm not using cliches, just stuff that I've read on this very forum. I understand that I don't support the same team as you, and because I don't agree with the largely held opinions on here that everyone, from the commander of trumps new space force to Martin Atkinson and the freemasons are trying to stop city winning the league opens me up to accusations of being a dipper, a rag, or both. I'm just contributing to a discussion, and if you guys decide you don't want me, then I won't post. I'd rather you win the league than any of the potential consistent winners, but that doesn't mean you guys aren't struggling this year because of what has happened within the club, and not the lizard people.

Being pissed is a reasonable and even the consistent way most of us feel after most games, but that wasn't the issue that I was addressing.
 
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Any one else get a private message of Big Kenny d ,15 minutes before kick off last night lots of city bingo here , I wouldn't have any of them on here .ps Boss that I think I hit a nerve
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I love the suggestion that we're all just kids on here ... and then he sends you that.

That'll be that severe lack of self awareness rearing its all to frequent head again then.

What an idiot.
 
Any chance you could hazard a guess at how many teams after every match/season that think they never get the decisions they think they should? I'm not using cliches, just stuff that I've read on this very forum. I understand that I don't support the same team as you, and because I don't agree with the largely held opinions on here that everyone, from the commander of trumps new space force to Martin Atkinson and the freemasons are trying to stop city winning the league opens me up to accusations of being a dipper, a rag, or both. I'm just contributing to a discussion, and if you guys decide you don't want me, then I won't post. I'd rather you win the league than any of the potential consistent winners, but that doesn't mean you guys aren't struggling this year because of what has happened within the club, and not the lizard people.

Being pissed is a reasonable and even the consistent way most of us feel after most games, but that wasn't the issue that I was addressing.

no, the issue you were addressing is why it’s completely inconceivable that a business that is worth billions and billions of pounds worldwide would resort to underhand tactics to protect the success of its product. You were making the point that absolutely everyone who sees, day in day out, refereeing and VAR decisions consistent with an underhand desire to prevent one particular team from dominating the league to the detriment of the brand’s commercial value is a certifiable lunatic if they make that connection.
 
no, the issue you were addressing is why it’s completely inconceivable that a business that is worth billions and billions of pounds worldwide would resort to underhand tactics to protect the success of its product. You were making the point that absolutely everyone who sees, day in day out, refereeing and VAR decisions consistent with an underhand desire to prevent one particular team from dominating the league to the detriment of the brand’s commercial value is a certifiable lunatic if they make that connection.

Pretty sure I know what issue I was addressing. It just seems completely nonsensical to me and detached from reality that a whole football league is working together to stop a football team and to make sure another one wins. If it was just about protecting the leagues brand, then why am I reading stuff about PED's? Are the league supplying them to help Liverpool, too?

Not sure if you've noticed, but Sheffield United could win the league and it would still be the most popular league in the world, so if the league is trying to protect it's own product, then logically there has to be something it's saving it from, and I just don't see what that is. The biggest leg up Liverpool have had this year is the points city have dropped. City were given the easiest fixtures to start the season, which in a 2 horse race where momentum over a couple of games between 2 juggernaut teams could be the deciding factor, then why would they allow the potential for Liverpool to fall a few points behind early in the season?

So many of these spurious claims don't have anything to back them up beyond whisper and insinuation. Hypothetically Liverpool win this year and next (I think you'll win it next year), then you win it the year after, will that be because you're the best team, or because the league just decided it was your year? You wouldn't celebrate that achievement on the off chance it's what the league wanted, surely?
 
Pretty sure I know what issue I was addressing. It just seems completely nonsensical to me and detached from reality that a whole football league is working together to stop a football team and to make sure another one wins. If it was just about protecting the leagues brand, then why am I reading stuff about PED's? Are the league supplying them to help Liverpool, too?

Not sure if you've noticed, but Sheffield United could win the league and it would still be the most popular league in the world, so if the league is trying to protect it's own product, then logically there has to be something it's saving it from, and I just don't see what that is. The biggest leg up Liverpool have had this year is the points city have dropped. City were given the easiest fixtures to start the season, which in a 2 horse race where momentum over a couple of games between 2 juggernaut teams could be the deciding factor, then why would they allow the potential for Liverpool to fall a few points behind early in the season?

So many of these spurious claims don't have anything to back them up beyond whisper and insinuation. Hypothetically Liverpool win this year and next (I think you'll win it next year), then you win it the year after, will that be because you're the best team, or because the league just decided it was your year? You wouldn't celebrate that achievement on the off chance it's what the league wanted, surely?

You make some good points and as a non-City fan you are very welcome on this forum if for no other reason than to bring a different perspective.

But if you honestly think that the interpretation and application of the laws of the game as applied to Manchester City is the same for Liverpool, together with how they are portrayed by the media, then you really need to pay closer attention to what is happening game-in, game-out. The emergence of and potential total future dominance by City represents a threat both to the interests of the cartel as was (domestic and European) as well as the protected commercial interests of the Premier League and its many subsidiaries. There is not a chance in hell that those people would stand idly by and let themselves be usurped by the "dirty Arabs and their filthy oil money". There is far too much at stake financially for that to happen.
 
From an Everton blog I follow on Tumblr, thought you might be interested.

How do they do it?

No club’s players run as far, as fast, for as long and as often as Liverpool’s players do yet rather surprisingly, the common muscle injuries brought about by fatigue and excessive use that other clubs protect their players from is never an issue for them.

It’s time to start asking questions when one set of players seem to be vastly superior in terms of physical fitness and endurance to everyone else’s. Is anything being done to actively investigate this?

The BBC reporter Dan Roan has poked around the British cycling team because of their dominance. He’s also cast an eye over the infamous Oregon Project - where Mo Farah trained with the controversial Coach Salazar - because of their dominance. So without doubt it’s time to start poking around football and Liverpool FC in particular, where the vast sums of money far in excess of those around cycling and athletics create a clear incentive to circumvent the regulations.

That’s assuming the regulations are actually being enforced in the first place.

We know they have a substantial sports science team working behind the scenes, but what isn’t clear are the methods they are using and how they seem to be so superior to everyone else. Not just a bit better, but vastly superior. And whether they actually break the rules, indeed whether there is sufficient checking to make sure that the rules aren’t being broken.

While virtually every other Premier League club has rested players and rotated their squad during the hectic Chrtismas period of fixtures, LFC will take the field against Wolves on December 29 with just one change from their last outing against Leicester. This, after what should have been a gruelling trip to Dubai on top of the fixtures that everyone else has had to endure.

And despite that, they’ll outrun Wolves for the entire 90 minutes today with no visible signs whatsoever of fatigue.

It’s time to start asking questions.


Were the rags ever like this?
 
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