Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Fair point, we've won back to back league titles and this team deserves all the credit for that.
This season is the after effect of being at full pelt for two seasons, there was always going to be a dip and it's happened this year.
I still think there may be twists and turns still but they will have to be pretty huge swings.

Welcome to the forum.
Plus let’s not forget, not only did we win back to back titles, we won 5 of the last 6 domestic trophies. Our back to back was also part of the first ever domestic treble. Only a truly special team can do that.
 
Any one else get a private message of Big Kenny d ,15 minutes before kick off last night lots of city bingo here , I wouldn't have any of them on here .ps Boss that I think I hit a nerve [emoji23][emoji23]
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Manchester twats,fk off you Scandinavian c.nt..
 
If and if Liverpool did go back to back and win it twice, the small silver lining would be the piss boiling at the swamp and one Sir Taggert. Who trademarked cliches like ‘not in my lifetime’ and ‘knocking Liverpool off their perch’.

Liverpool are a nuisance at the moment and will be dealt with accordingly, never lose sight of who the real scummy twats are. They crawled out from under their rocks the other week like it was the 1990s again when they won a derby.

The one bonus of hating both the red ****s is that when one wins it pisses the other off, so there’s always a silver lining.
 
So here goes...I've been a long term lurker on here, but I joined today because I want to give you guys some advice that genuinely comes from a place of love. I'm a Birmingham fan, so the top of the prem is about as far away from my clubs interests as an ant copying the hunting tactics of a lion. First some background, I grew up in the era where Liverpool were the dominant team in football, and with a few family members supporting them, I always enjoyed watching them play.

I never liked united or Chelsea but loved that early 2000's Arsenal team. Then you guys came along, and you gave me hope that maybe at some point my club could get an investor and although it's doubtful we'd get one like yours, there would be a chance to propel us up the food chain and make us relevant. I identified with you guys seeing you struggle through the lower leagues and you easily became the team I'd always watch out for in the league. Then you got Pep (whose Barca team is probably the greatest I've ever seen), so city winning the league with 100 pts a season, playing the football of the gods for a decade until we get our house in order and rightfully rise to our birthright at the top of the league would have been the ideal scenario for me - and I'm sure most of you wouldn't have minded that either!

However, this forum is a poor reflection on city this year; the conspiracy theories flying around are, to an outsider, insane. I'm a member of a few footie forums, including a Liverpool one, and last year they were full of praise and admiration for the title-winning run you put together. It wasn't a bottle job - they finished with a points tally that only one team in English league history had bettered. Twice!

Football by it's very nature is cyclical, which is why united went 26 years without winning it, and liverpool are at 30. Your owners mean that cycle is no longer relevant to you, so you'll always be around that level. You'll win it far more regularly than any other club in my opinion. That's the point, you can't win it every single year, so learning how to not cry foul every time someone else has a better season is important.

Instead of drugs, var, media, any other Alex Jones-esque infowars bullshit conspiracy theories, don't lower yourselves to that level. Re-group next year and take it back, rather than it being everyone else's fault that you're going to lose it this year.

I know you're probably going to call me a red, if everything I've read on these pages over the last few weeks is anything to go by, but I genuinely want you guys to be better than you're being. Take that with the intended sincerity, or tell me to fuck off, it's up to you.

Completely misunderstood the whole thing. We are not crying foul or whatever cliche you'd like to label us with, we are just pissed with the many decisions that have not gone our way when clearly they should have.

We have no right to win the league unchallenged season after season and not one person on these boards will, or has ever said that.

Btw, you're post isn't getting half the coverage it should.
 
Just as a matter of interest...why didn't you come on here at the end of last season just after you'd beaten Wolves to see how City fans view the season...I mean...why now?

Good question and I understand what you're implying. I've been rifling through this forum since learning it existed since 2016, so I haven't come on here now in particular. If you mean posting something, then I can see your point.

But the reason I did it yesterday and not some other day was because I had actually only just discovered the Liverpool section of the forum. Also, I think it's fair to say that when fans of other clubs join forums it usually means they're there to troll, but I'm hoping I dont give off that impression.

You guys will be fine though. Genuinely.
 
Good question and I understand what you're implying. I've been rifling through this forum since learning it existed since 2016, so I haven't come on here now in particular. If you mean posting something, then I can see your point.

But the reason I did it yesterday and not some other day was because I had actually only just discovered the Liverpool section of the forum. Also, I think it's fair to say that when fans of other clubs join forums it usually means they're there to troll, but I'm hoping I dont give off that impression.

You guys will be fine though. Genuinely.

I might be being over sensitive but saying "we'll be fine" from the fan of a club that hasn't won the league in 30 years where we've won it 4 times in the last 7 sounds a bit patronising.
 
Good question and I understand what you're implying. I've been rifling through this forum since learning it existed since 2016, so I haven't come on here now in particular. If you mean posting something, then I can see your point.

But the reason I did it yesterday and not some other day was because I had actually only just discovered the Liverpool section of the forum. Also, I think it's fair to say that when fans of other clubs join forums it usually means they're there to troll, but I'm hoping I dont give off that impression.

You guys will be fine though. Genuinely.
It took you 3 years to notice a thread titled with your clubs name even though our 2 clubs have been going at it during the same period?

You spent all your time in the Brexit thread?
 
Completely misunderstood the whole thing. We are not crying foul or whatever cliche you'd like to label us with, we are just pissed with the many decisions that have not gone our way when clearly they should have.

We have no right to win the league unchallenged season after season and not one person on these boards will, or has ever said that.

Btw, you're post isn't getting half the coverage it should.

Any chance you could hazard a guess at how many teams after every match/season that think they never get the decisions they think they should? I'm not using cliches, just stuff that I've read on this very forum. I understand that I don't support the same team as you, and because I don't agree with the largely held opinions on here that everyone, from the commander of trumps new space force to Martin Atkinson and the freemasons are trying to stop city winning the league opens me up to accusations of being a dipper, a rag, or both. I'm just contributing to a discussion, and if you guys decide you don't want me, then I won't post. I'd rather you win the league than any of the potential consistent winners, but that doesn't mean you guys aren't struggling this year because of what has happened within the club, and not the lizard people.

Being pissed is a reasonable and even the consistent way most of us feel after most games, but that wasn't the issue that I was addressing.
 
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Any one else get a private message of Big Kenny d ,15 minutes before kick off last night lots of city bingo here , I wouldn't have any of them on here .ps Boss that I think I hit a nerve [emoji23][emoji23]
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I love the suggestion that we're all just kids on here ... and then he sends you that.

That'll be that severe lack of self awareness rearing its all to frequent head again then.

What an idiot.
 
Any chance you could hazard a guess at how many teams after every match/season that think they never get the decisions they think they should? I'm not using cliches, just stuff that I've read on this very forum. I understand that I don't support the same team as you, and because I don't agree with the largely held opinions on here that everyone, from the commander of trumps new space force to Martin Atkinson and the freemasons are trying to stop city winning the league opens me up to accusations of being a dipper, a rag, or both. I'm just contributing to a discussion, and if you guys decide you don't want me, then I won't post. I'd rather you win the league than any of the potential consistent winners, but that doesn't mean you guys aren't struggling this year because of what has happened within the club, and not the lizard people.

Being pissed is a reasonable and even the consistent way most of us feel after most games, but that wasn't the issue that I was addressing.

no, the issue you were addressing is why it’s completely inconceivable that a business that is worth billions and billions of pounds worldwide would resort to underhand tactics to protect the success of its product. You were making the point that absolutely everyone who sees, day in day out, refereeing and VAR decisions consistent with an underhand desire to prevent one particular team from dominating the league to the detriment of the brand’s commercial value is a certifiable lunatic if they make that connection.
 
no, the issue you were addressing is why it’s completely inconceivable that a business that is worth billions and billions of pounds worldwide would resort to underhand tactics to protect the success of its product. You were making the point that absolutely everyone who sees, day in day out, refereeing and VAR decisions consistent with an underhand desire to prevent one particular team from dominating the league to the detriment of the brand’s commercial value is a certifiable lunatic if they make that connection.

Pretty sure I know what issue I was addressing. It just seems completely nonsensical to me and detached from reality that a whole football league is working together to stop a football team and to make sure another one wins. If it was just about protecting the leagues brand, then why am I reading stuff about PED's? Are the league supplying them to help Liverpool, too?

Not sure if you've noticed, but Sheffield United could win the league and it would still be the most popular league in the world, so if the league is trying to protect it's own product, then logically there has to be something it's saving it from, and I just don't see what that is. The biggest leg up Liverpool have had this year is the points city have dropped. City were given the easiest fixtures to start the season, which in a 2 horse race where momentum over a couple of games between 2 juggernaut teams could be the deciding factor, then why would they allow the potential for Liverpool to fall a few points behind early in the season?

So many of these spurious claims don't have anything to back them up beyond whisper and insinuation. Hypothetically Liverpool win this year and next (I think you'll win it next year), then you win it the year after, will that be because you're the best team, or because the league just decided it was your year? You wouldn't celebrate that achievement on the off chance it's what the league wanted, surely?
 
Pretty sure I know what issue I was addressing. It just seems completely nonsensical to me and detached from reality that a whole football league is working together to stop a football team and to make sure another one wins. If it was just about protecting the leagues brand, then why am I reading stuff about PED's? Are the league supplying them to help Liverpool, too?

Not sure if you've noticed, but Sheffield United could win the league and it would still be the most popular league in the world, so if the league is trying to protect it's own product, then logically there has to be something it's saving it from, and I just don't see what that is. The biggest leg up Liverpool have had this year is the points city have dropped. City were given the easiest fixtures to start the season, which in a 2 horse race where momentum over a couple of games between 2 juggernaut teams could be the deciding factor, then why would they allow the potential for Liverpool to fall a few points behind early in the season?

So many of these spurious claims don't have anything to back them up beyond whisper and insinuation. Hypothetically Liverpool win this year and next (I think you'll win it next year), then you win it the year after, will that be because you're the best team, or because the league just decided it was your year? You wouldn't celebrate that achievement on the off chance it's what the league wanted, surely?

You make some good points and as a non-City fan you are very welcome on this forum if for no other reason than to bring a different perspective.

But if you honestly think that the interpretation and application of the laws of the game as applied to Manchester City is the same for Liverpool, together with how they are portrayed by the media, then you really need to pay closer attention to what is happening game-in, game-out. The emergence of and potential total future dominance by City represents a threat both to the interests of the cartel as was (domestic and European) as well as the protected commercial interests of the Premier League and its many subsidiaries. There is not a chance in hell that those people would stand idly by and let themselves be usurped by the "dirty Arabs and their filthy oil money". There is far too much at stake financially for that to happen.
 
From an Everton blog I follow on Tumblr, thought you might be interested.

How do they do it?

No club’s players run as far, as fast, for as long and as often as Liverpool’s players do yet rather surprisingly, the common muscle injuries brought about by fatigue and excessive use that other clubs protect their players from is never an issue for them.

It’s time to start asking questions when one set of players seem to be vastly superior in terms of physical fitness and endurance to everyone else’s. Is anything being done to actively investigate this?

The BBC reporter Dan Roan has poked around the British cycling team because of their dominance. He’s also cast an eye over the infamous Oregon Project - where Mo Farah trained with the controversial Coach Salazar - because of their dominance. So without doubt it’s time to start poking around football and Liverpool FC in particular, where the vast sums of money far in excess of those around cycling and athletics create a clear incentive to circumvent the regulations.

That’s assuming the regulations are actually being enforced in the first place.

We know they have a substantial sports science team working behind the scenes, but what isn’t clear are the methods they are using and how they seem to be so superior to everyone else. Not just a bit better, but vastly superior. And whether they actually break the rules, indeed whether there is sufficient checking to make sure that the rules aren’t being broken.

While virtually every other Premier League club has rested players and rotated their squad during the hectic Chrtismas period of fixtures, LFC will take the field against Wolves on December 29 with just one change from their last outing against Leicester. This, after what should have been a gruelling trip to Dubai on top of the fixtures that everyone else has had to endure.

And despite that, they’ll outrun Wolves for the entire 90 minutes today with no visible signs whatsoever of fatigue.

It’s time to start asking questions.


Were the rags ever like this?
 
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