Liverpool thread 2019/20

[Blue Mist]

Another Government inquiry is being demanded, another scouser on the tele demanding it, do they ever stop ? I have every sympathy with his wife over her loss but I have put on here many times who, if anyone, was to blame.... but it is never their fault. Not the mayors, FSG, the police, Klopp, nope it is Boris Johnsons fault because everyone in Liverpool does everything he says. Yeh right.

 

[blue corby]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

 

[waspish]

They mark it every year mate in that way at the memorial.

Do they!? Why was it the first time I’ve seen it on twitter?

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

I was glad it was called off, would I have eventually gone to the Arse game? Similar to Istanbul in 2009 if we'd got there...who knows.

I had already decided in the days after the postponed game I wasn't going to go to the Burnley game but, the Arsenal game I'll never know.

 

[Ric]

Another Government inquiry is being demanded, another scouser on the tele demanding it, do they ever stop ? I have every sympathy with his wife over her loss but I have put on here many times who, if anyone, was to blame.... but it is never their fault. Not the mayors, FSG, the police, Klopp, nope it is Boris Johnsons fault because everyone in Liverpool does everything he says. Yeh right.

It was a disgrace that the game went instead, but who ultimately is responsible for that decision is unclear. I guess an enquiry would at least ascertain that?

 

[KloppiteE]

Everyone who attended the game at Anfield had a choice to make go or stay at home those that went knew what the dangers of going were unless they were to young to make a decision then whoever took them were responsible. , City were due to play Arsenal and we as a family decided we would not attend before it was called off due to the obvious danger . Our choice not anyone else’s

Undoubtedly. It's a personal judgement call but it's understandable that many would choose to attend when all the 'expert' advice was telling them it was safe to do so at that time.

But it still doesn't negate the two respective Governments and UEFA's decision to see fit to allow both the game to go-ahead and 3,000 to travel into the North West. The majority from Spain's epicentre of the pandemic. That's terrible negligence from all concerned.

Mercifully they stopped another 3,000 from Madrid from returning to the area a week later for your return so we can at least be thankful for that.

You and yours stay safe mate as we continue to fight this horror.

 

[bakerdave76]

 

[KloppiteE]

Do they!? Why was it the first time I’ve seen it on twitter?

Yes bud. There's links to the last 3 or 4 years in the link to this year I posted for example.

I can justifiably criticise them for a lot of, IMHO, their lax response to really trying to mend bridges with the people of Turin over the years. (There's always been good contact between the two clubs but they could have done a lot more for me.).

But not respectfully marking the anniversary every year isn't one of them.

 

[cheekybids]

It was a disgrace that the game went instead, but who ultimately is responsible for that decision is unclear. I guess an enquiry would at least ascertain that?

VAR?

 

[Eds]

Heartbreaking watching Richie Mawson's wife and son on BBC breakfast a little earlier.

For those that don't know, he contracted CV the away game in Madrid, fell seriously ill a fortnight after, and sadly passed quickly after that. At 70.

It really does make you think how lucky you are personally after those two games.

I mean the first game the virus was in its infancy and there was no talk from Governments of the risks/ warnings of not travelling. But they obviously knew of the inherent danger when friends who went via Bergamo, were stopped on the way back through there and had their temperature taken, both on landing and departing, without being told why. To then be told they had to SI on returning to Britain. We flew directly in and out from Stansted and never had that but still, after spending 3 days in the Spanish capital, as City did the week after, you think 'there but for the grace of God' yanno?'

And then to have the absolutely absurd situation of the return game going ahead, or at the very least, not being played behind closed doors, when Madrid at that time had seen a massive spike in cases, was negligence in the extreme from the authorities. The manager voiced his concerns. But as he noted, he's no different to the rest of us and is no expert so we can only go with what they say. Supporters groups raised it numerous times with the club of fans fears to allow 3,000 fans from Madrid, now the epicentre of CV in Spain, into the North West. (This didn't just affect L'pool but Manchester too given routes of travel.). But ultimately, the advice from both our and the Spanish Government, and UEFA, was that it was still not that high of a risk and safe to hold the fixture. So what do you do? The club followed those guidelines and you, as a fan, as we all have through this horrible pandemic, put yourselves in the hands of those 'experts' that are advising you everything's still ok to attend and trust they know what they're telling you backed by medical science.

And the result was a massive spike in infections and lost life in the area following that scandalous decision from those in charge trusted with public safety.

I'm just relieved and thankful they finally saw sense after and stopped another 3,000 from Madrid travelling back into the North West the following week or else Manchester would have doubtless suffered as well.

God rest Mr Mawson. (And anyone else come to that lost to this horrific killer that's irrevocably changed our lives forever.).

Let's get the facts straight shall we but first let me extend my sympathy to the family.

Firstly he didn't catch Covid after the away leg. He caught it two weeks after attending the home game. The family said he was fit and healthy, went to gym twice a week and sometime picked up his grandaughter from school. You don't think going to a gym twice a week might have been where he contracted the illness? Liverpool as a club were desperate to get the game played, I didn't hear Klopp in his presser demanding for the game to be postponed, I didn't hear the owners of the club demanding from UEFA that the game be postponed. All I heard was how Atletico would crumble under the lights etc. And how ironic that the wife talks about going with whatever the government tells you to do, that must be a first in Merseyside. What will an enquiry tell you? That UEFA didn't want the game cancelled as there was too much money at stake, that the club were happy to proceed, that the late Mr Mawson could have contracted the illness from any number of places?