Saddleworth2
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Fair play. They are resilient and effective and have better consistency than us this season.
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tommo74
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Nothing wrong with that l arsenal won leagues with it, and would rather win by the odd goal than loose by the odd goal,like we have done several times this season
If you are including the teams outside of us by way of a title challenge then you are miles off. Milllions.
Only 1 club will challenge and surpass this FA team, and that is us.
The teams you have mentioned may well be better than this season, but they will still be fucking miles away.
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They've also shown a far greater varsatility than us.
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Finding a way of stopping their full backs is 80 % the secret to stopping them. Which is why you need to play 3 af the back, wing backs AND inverted wingers against them as it stops them being able to push so high up the pitch. The only game they've drawn is when the Rags played this system. I was really hoping we'd do this against them but injuries led had to us playing 4 at the back with a midget at LB and a hologram in goal.
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If my auntie had balls...I have often said, it seems like to me(as well as hearing of a stat from earlier on the season) that although they are obviously very good, things are going abnormally well at both ends of the pitch for Liverpool this season. In that they are creating less than last season but scoring the ones they do get more often, and conceding more chances per game but teams are bottling it when they do find themselves in front of goal. I can't remember many match winning moments from Alisson this season, if any at all.
Looking at the chance conversion rates so far, it seems the stats do indicate half of it. City are 5% below the league average and Liverpool are 23.5% above it.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...rwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2019/plus/1
Here's what the table would have looked like at the end of last month, had we taken our big chances.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50822875
For the defence side(from the same article), I must admit the graph is confusing but it seems to support the idea that teams have been more ruthless against us with the chances they do get.
Although Liverpool fall under the "good defence and wasteful opponents" category, my point was that they were conceding less chances last season, from what I gathered. I'm not sure there are any up to date comparisons compared to last year for that.
City on the other hand, since they straddle two different sections, shall we say "average defence and ruthless opponents"?
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.. great insight and relevant.
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Tetchy because I mentioned you stating the bleeding obvious? I don’t know why the guy left but I’m sorry he did based on the fitness levels and the overall lack of injuries that the Dippers have had over the the last couple of seasons
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How do you know she hasn`t ?
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I have often said, it seems like to me(as well as hearing of a stat from earlier on the season) that although they are obviously very good, things are going abnormally well at both ends of the pitch for Liverpool this season. In that they are creating less than last season but scoring the ones they do get more often, and conceding more chances per game but teams are bottling it when they do find themselves in front of goal. I can't remember many match winning moments from Alisson this season, if any at all.
Looking at the chance conversion rates so far, it seems the stats do indicate half of it. City are 5% below the league average and Liverpool are 23.5% above it.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/pre...rwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/saison_id/2019/plus/1
Here's what the table would have looked like at the end of last month, had we taken our big chances.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50822875
For the defence side(from the same article), I must admit the graph is confusing but it seems to support the idea that teams have been more ruthless against us with the chances they do get.
Although Liverpool fall under the "good defence and wasteful opponents" category, my point was that they were conceding less chances last season, from what I gathered. I'm not sure there are any up to date comparisons compared to last year for that.
City on the other hand, since they straddle two different sections, shall we say "average defence and ruthless opponents"?
Sort of interesting, but it requires so many ifs and buts
Gordyola
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Head Physio left, the man who treats injuries not the fitness trainer or sports scientist
GOULDYBOBS
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Class players, class manager, bunch of **** fans. Cant stand them for that reason alone
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can’t ever tell in football mate, Arsenal might get 3 or 4 players in who set the world alight and it’s a different season - if Mane and Van Dijk had long term injury’s then they would struggle a bit.
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as relevant as the croc of data-driven bollocks you posted. ifs, buts and could have, should have, might have etc, etc, blah, blah, blah. There's one piece of data that matters in this, and one only. The league table. It never lies.
Rags when they were dominant. Including their manager (same could be said of Pep). Plenty of media spin during that period and currently with this Liverpool team.
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Good fortune you say ?
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She thinks Miranda is funny. No more evidence required your honour.
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It's nothing to do with 'ifs and buts' at all... which is why that comment isn't relevant and your attitude is unnecessary. I'll talk about what I like thankyou very much, Jonny.
I started off by saying they are obviously very good. It was more to show those trying to claim that: "Anyone suggesting Liverpool have dropped off themselves from last season and continued(since last season) to enjoy more than their fair share of good luck, just have their blue tinted specs on", should probably stop doing so.
The table does lie in some respects, not that they don't deserve to be top of the table, they do and fair play to them. It's revealing but the 'expected goals table' which you seem to have homed in on, is not to be taken literally.
We don't deserve to be top of the table. Have they really been playing well enough to be this far in front though on balance? I don't think so, the stats seems to support that notion. There's more than a few games where they were lucky not to drop points. Most people could already see it, to see it confirmed statistically settles it for me. They deserve plenty of credit but some are getting carried away.
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BertTrautmann'sParachute
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One draw all season? Really?
A few get out of jail free cards.
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