Liverpool thread 2019/20

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I don't think I said that Bill.

Utd fans don't want Liverpool to win, correct. If Liverpool aren't in the running they don't want City to win. City is the lesser of 2 evils for plenty of Utd fans since Utd are so far ahead in the trophy count....for now.
Yes, Liverpool did what they needed to do to win the Champions League. They lost 4 games but won the competition. I was happy. :-) You may value the league cup or FA cup above the champions League for the reasons mentioned but you'll find few others who'll agree. The final was awful but finals are for winning and not performances.
Are you angry that I was delighted with the Champions League win? Or because of the media?

Who's Angry?.. not me!

Did I say I valued the FA or League Cup over the Chumps League?

No I didn't, I said if we had lost a cup game we'd be knocked out unlike like the cup competition your adopted team won after losing 4 times.

Read what I post next time before posting your sarky reply ..... Smart Arse!
 
Who's Angry?.. not me!

Did I say I valued the FA or League Cup over the Chumps League?

No I didn't, I said if we had lost a cup game we'd be knocked out unlike like the cup competition your adopted team won after losing 4 times.

Read what I post next time before posting your sarky reply ..... Smart Arse!

It came across as you thought it was harder to win the domestic cups as you weren't given the option of losing any game. Liverpool lost 4 games and still won the cup which makes it a much lesser accomplishment. Liverpool did what needed to be done. Didn't feature in the domestic cups and it didn't look like they were taken seriously as we don't have the squad to compete on 4 fronts.
 
Don't see much wrong with it personally.
You're either in denial or barking up the wrong tree, or both.


Alison may have wanted the Premier League but to suggest that he didn't give a shite about the Champions League after winning it....? Every player in Europe wants the trophy. Every player. The emotion on that pitch after on of the worst finals ever spoke volumes.
Yes, every Liverpool fan wanted the league but it's not as if it was there for the taking. Amassing 97pts and not winning might seem cruel but you can't deny we lost to the better team. Losing only one game in the season was unimaginable and still it wasn't enough. Disappointing but Can't complain which is why it's easier to accept. We'll try to win it this season. :-)
 
Alison may have wanted the Premier League but to suggest that he didn't give a shite about the Champions League after winning it....? Every player in Europe wants the trophy. Every player. The emotion on that pitch after on of the worst finals ever spoke volumes.
Yes, every Liverpool fan wanted the league but it's not as if it was there for the taking. Amassing 97pts and not winning might seem cruel but you can't deny we lost to the better team. Losing only one game in the season was unimaginable and still it wasn't enough. Disappointing but Can't complain which is why it's easier to accept. We'll try to win it this season. :-)

For me personally, winning the league and doing well in other domestic competitions will always rule over that corrupt, spineless farce of a competition that is the Champions League. Just my pennys worth of course
 
The vast majority of your (horrible) fanbase will even admit that they crave winning the PL over the CL, European competitions just do not give me that same warm, glowy feeling.
 
It came across as you thought it was harder to win the domestic cups as you weren't given the option of losing any game. Liverpool lost 4 games and still won the cup which makes it a much lesser accomplishment. Liverpool did what needed to be done. Didn't feature in the domestic cups and it didn't look like they were taken seriously as we don't have the squad to compete on 4 fronts.
Klopp obviously valued the CL over domestic competitions.

The FA cup and league cup are (basically) knockout comps whereas the Champions League is a league where a team can afford to lose here and there - but for teams who did not win any of their domestic competitions to wind themselves into a 'champions' final shows how meaningless the whole league is - in reality.

Winning the premier league, and then defending that by winning it again is far, far superior to winning any other completion across the board. i really don't think the CL can even come close to that. i think that Pep values the champions league enough to want to win it, and i'd guess that Sheikh Monsour would love for City to win it too, as well as many of the players and fans - but given the choice of winning the premier league or the cl, given where City have come from, i think many of the fans would say f*** the cl - they'd take the league any season - not just because of what it means, but because of the slog of winning week in and week out.

Having said that, it was disappointing to be knocked out so cruelly these last two seasons. The Spurs game was one of the best games of football i've seen in a long time, and i can say that even though City were cheated: firstly by a handball and then by a disallowed goal - it was a fantastic game of football.

It is what it is.

And what it is for me, as well as many other fans, i'm sure, is a series of games that eat into a teams schedule to such a degree that adds to a seasons fatigue, and forces a team to play too many games over too short a time, enhances the chances of player injury, adds to an already excessive workload - not only 'on the day' but also within the regular schedule of games, training etc.

It is too much, too big a schedule of games that crowd an already over-crowded calendar of football - and tbf, if City sacked the CL off and focused entirely on the domestic championships we'd simply dominate English football. Perhaps striving for ever more accolades is the thing that puts it into perspective... i don't know. But the CL to me means less than the Charity Shield - if only because to qualify for the Shield you have to have won something in the last season.....

Unless you get an invite.... Like Liverpool did ;)

And tbf, playing, and beating, Diverpool in the CS was a big deal.

But the reality of the CL is that it cuts into a team, it's fitness, it's mentality. It creates fatigue and jams more games into a crowded schedule and i think most teams could do without it unless that is their main focus.
 
Unlike many here, I’d have taken, and will take, the CL this year over ALL the domestic trophies. The League and FA Cup clog up the schedule completely unnecessarily, as they end up forcing games to be rescheduled and put in every little nook and cranny in the schedule that can be worked.

City should play kids and “reserves” needing valuable game time in BOTH Cup competitions and allow the “First Team” to expend all their energy on the CL and, secondly (unless things change dramatically with the injuries in the squad and Liverpool fall apart), the PL.
 
Klopp obviously valued the CL over domestic competitions.

The FA cup and league cup are (basically) knockout comps whereas the Champions League is a league where a team can afford to lose here and there - but for teams who did not win any of their domestic competitions to wind themselves into a 'champions' final shows how meaningless the whole league is - in reality.

Winning the premier league, and then defending that by winning it again is far, far superior to winning any other completion across the board. i really don't think the CL can even come close to that. i think that Pep values the champions league enough to want to win it, and i'd guess that Sheikh Monsour would love for City to win it too, as well as many of the players and fans - but given the choice of winning the premier league or the cl, given where City have come from, i think many of the fans would say f*** the cl - they'd take the league any season - not just because of what it means, but because of the slog of winning week in and week out.

Having said that, it was disappointing to be knocked out so cruelly these last two seasons. The Spurs game was one of the best games of football i've seen in a long time, and i can say that even though City were cheated: firstly by a handball and then by a disallowed goal - it was a fantastic game of football.

It is what it is.

And what it is for me, as well as many other fans, i'm sure, is a series of games that eat into a teams schedule to such a degree that adds to a seasons fatigue, and forces a team to play too many games over too short a time, enhances the chances of player injury, adds to an already excessive workload - not only 'on the day' but also within the regular schedule of games, training etc.

It is too much, too big a schedule of games that crowd an already over-crowded calendar of football - and tbf, if City sacked the CL off and focused entirely on the domestic championships we'd simply dominate English football. Perhaps striving for ever more accolades is the thing that puts it into perspective... i don't know. But the CL to me means less than the Charity Shield - if only because to qualify for the Shield you have to have won something in the last season.....

Unless you get an invite.... Like Liverpool did ;)

And tbf, playing, and beating, Diverpool in the CS was a big deal.

But the reality of the CL is that it cuts into a team, it's fitness, it's mentality. It creates fatigue and jams more games into a crowded schedule and i think most teams could do without it unless that is their main focus.
Great Post.
 
It came across as you thought it was harder to win the domestic cups as you weren't given the option of losing any game. Liverpool lost 4 games and still won the cup which makes it a much lesser accomplishment. Liverpool did what needed to be done. Didn't feature in the domestic cups and it didn't look like they were taken seriously as we don't have the squad to compete on 4 fronts.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure I read recently that you posted Klippety had built a fantastic first 11 and a good squad with all the money he's spent, can't be arsed wading back through all the shit you've posted to be honest to quote it but I'm sure you'll remember it..

So now you're saying it's not a good enough squad to compete for the 4 major trophies on offer each season.

Basically you're just a plucky cup team then, so long as you have the safety net of losing several games on route to winning it..
 
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