Liverpool thread 2019/20

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I didn't actually see the CL game and missed the end of the Villa match? Were the second yellow cards deserved?
The second yellow in the CL probably was, the first never, but that's for the player to address, if you've had one (just or not) you need to adapt your game.

I'm not arsed about the Fernandhino one as it has no real impact on us, in fact its probably beneficial, and could have been deliberate, though at the game I didn't think so, and haven't seen a replay. As it works out he misses a game he was always going to miss anyway, and as a result of the second booking being converted to red, he loses a booking for later in the season (though if he gets another second yellow, he'll get 2 games instead of 1).
 
Agree with the bolded parts.
Put another way. If 2 people challenge for a ball and one is late and ends up kicking the other player's leg, is it a foul? Of course it is. He wouldn't have meant to kick his opponent. May not have been aware he would. Clearly trying to win the ball but if he's late he's late and it's a free.
It's not like it was a 50-50. The defender wasn't trying to win the ball. It was already under control and he was trying to clear it until Mane prevented him from doing so by fouling him.
 
Still think VVD would be a bigger loss, but Matip has certainly improved this season. Agree with you in respect to Lovren, poor defender and this news is certainly a boost to City's chances in a couple of weeks.

I like the prospect of Aguero against Lovren.
 
Milners stamp on Moura should have been a straight red. He was nowhere near the ball and knew exactly what he was doing.
Inconsistency yet again!!!
 
It's not like it was a 50-50. The defender wasn't trying to win the ball. It was already under control and he was trying to clear it until Mane prevented him from doing so by fouling him.
Exactly.

Put it into role reversal - if Mane had control of the ball and was in the motion of shooting and the defender sticks his leg in the way and initiates 'contact', the penalty is given as the defender hasn't played the ball but has 'impeded' the attacking player..........
 
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