Liverpool thread 2019/20

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VVD is very good but he’s not what makes Liverpool tick. Injuries to your fullbacks would be catastrophic for the way you play. I also believe and saw it last night that Robertson makes VVD look better, his ability/pace to recover and make last ditch blocks and clearances is ignored because of his contribution going forward. VVD isn’t that vital imho
I agree. Sheff utd are the only team to figure that out so far. He went 3-5-2 and pushed his wing backs right up forcing the Liverpool full backs to hold and it nearly worked.
 
June 2017: Liverpool Football Club would like to put on record our regret over recent media speculation regarding Southampton Football Club and player transfers between the two clubs,” said the statement. “We apologise to the owner, board of directors and fans of Southampton for any misunderstanding regarding Virgil van Dijk. We respect Southampton’s position and can confirm we have ended any interest in the player

July 2017: Liverpool escape FA punishment for alleged tapping up of Van Dijk, further details not released.

September 2017: Liverpool fined £100k and banned from signing youth players for two years, one suspended, after being found guilty of tapping up 13 year old schoolboy from Stoke City. The investigation proved Liverpool had intentionally doctored documents to mislead the FA.

December 2017: Liverpool announce signing of Van Dijk less than six months after officially ending their interest in the player.

October 2019: Liverpool asked to explain alleged payment of £1m to Manchester City in relation to claims of having their rivals scouting system.
Former City employees Dave Fallows and Julian Ward are accused of logging into City’s Scout7 database “hundreds of times” after they left the Etihad for Anfield. Fallows– now Liverpool’s head of recruitment – and Ward – the Reds’ loan pathways and football partnerships manager allegedly used City scout Rob Newman’s account without him knowing between June 2012 and February 2013. Michael Edwards– now Liverpool’s sporting director – is also alleged to have been involved. Outcome pending.

October 2019: Liverpool fined £200k, half suspended, after fielding an ineligible player in a EFL Carabao Cup tie.

December 2019: Liverpool appeal FA decision to not allow the club to wear FIFA World Champions badges in their Premier League shirts, a mid-season shirt alteration rule all Premier League clubs are aware of.




I just don't understand the media love for them? Constantly underhand tactics to get an edge, then crying foul whenever the wind blows against them.
 
I just don't understand the media love for them? Constantly underhand tactics to get an edge, then crying foul whenever the wind blows against them.

Pretty simple to understand. They have more fans that any other team other than the rags so the media pander to them as they do the rags. I don’t think it’s personal. Just economic sense.
 
Pretty simple to understand. They have more fans that any other team other than the rags so the media pander to them as they do the rags. I don’t think it’s personal. Just economic sense.

Surely the number of fans who support other clubs and are sick to the back teeth of united this and liverpool that, form a big enough audience to counteract that ?

I believe it's an establishment thing. United and Liverpool are football's establishment and anything that undermines that is subversive and dangerous.
 
Surely the number of fans who support other clubs and are sick to the back teeth of united this and liverpool that, form a big enough audience to counteract that ?

I believe it's an establishment thing. United and Liverpool are football's establishment and anything that undermines that is subversive and dangerous.

Sadly it's based on economic marketing. The 2 premier league cash cows - Liverpool and the rags - have a vast global follower base which generates huge amounts of revenue for the premier league and thousands of peripheral industries such as the media. The more the media promotes them and their interests the better they are likely to do and the better they do the more money they generate for themselves and all the peripherals. The followers believe all the media promotion guff to the point of utter delusion - hence everyone despises them regardless of how good they are on the pitch.

Meanwhile the tribal nature of football is such that all the other clubs operate in isolation, happy to take their slice of the premier league profits.
 
Sadly it's based on economic marketing. The 2 premier league cash cows - Liverpool and the rags - have a vast global follower base which generates huge amounts of revenue for the premier league and thousands of peripheral industries such as the media. The more the media promotes them and their interests the better they are likely to do and the better they do the more money they generate for themselves and all the peripherals. The followers believe all the media promotion guff to the point of utter delusion - hence everyone despises them regardless of how good they are on the pitch.

Meanwhile the tribal nature of football is such that all the other clubs operate in isolation, happy to take their slice of the premier league profits.

The money to be made selling to the pre-brainwashed fans of Asia and other global places must be kept up, those two clubs were sold as the best football teams with Real and Barca the culprits in the media companies want to keep this going because it's served them well over the last few decades.
Hence the big 4 morphing into the big six.
 
And we used to call the dipper fans deluded.

They are winning matches by playing the sort of football that wins matches. They chase everything like we once did. They switch directly from defence to attack at high speed. They don’t part like the fcukin Red Sea when any pub team attacks them. They can cross the ball and have people who can head it.

Yes, we play the nicer football on our day but this season they are hungrier, better motivated, better organised and far more consistent than us.
 
And we used to call the dipper fans deluded.

They are winning matches by playing the sort of football that wins matches. They chase everything like we once did. They switch directly from defence to attack at high speed. They don’t part like the fcukin Red Sea when any pub team attacks them. They can cross the ball and have people who can head it.

Yes, we play the nicer football on our day but this season they are hungrier, better motivated, better organised and far more consistent than us.

TBF though, even a broken clock is right once every 30 years.
 
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