Liverpool thread 2020/21

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Prestwich_Blue said:
They go on about "winning it 6 times", as though that's the only trophy that means anything. I was thinking about this last night and it's a trophy you can win without winning a single game (at least in 90 minutes).

In the group stage, of the 4 teams, Team A draws every game 0-0, gaining 6 points
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Juve got through an EL group we were in doing nearly exactly this iirc.
 
metalblue said:
This was posted in the city thread on RAWK (sorry about formatting it’s that bad on there). Anyone a clue what the fuck this actually is? Other than wrong


Year In Out Net
2008 70.16 23.85 46.31
2009 141.62 27.86 113.76
2010 132.57 36.14 96.43
2011 165.24 28.08 137.16
2012 81.95 39.87 42.08
2013 55.76 10.17 45.59
2014 103.95 27.47 76.48
2015 92.52 60.96 31.56
2016 187.38 31.82 155.56
2017 193.5 82.22 111.28
2018 285.75 51.84 233.91
2019 70.73 63.9 6.83
2020 143.57 55.49 88.08
2021 154.62 16.2 138.42
1879.32 555.87 1323.45
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Unless I'm clarkied I assume it's millions spent as in £70.16m.
 
metalblue said:
This was posted in the city thread on RAWK (sorry about formatting it’s that bad on there). Anyone a clue what the fuck this actually is? Other than wrong


Year In Out Net
2008 70.16 23.85 46.31
2009 141.62 27.86 113.76
2010 132.57 36.14 96.43
2011 165.24 28.08 137.16
2012 81.95 39.87 42.08
2013 55.76 10.17 45.59
2014 103.95 27.47 76.48
2015 92.52 60.96 31.56
2016 187.38 31.82 155.56
2017 193.5 82.22 111.28
2018 285.75 51.84 233.91
2019 70.73 63.9 6.83
2020 143.57 55.49 88.08
2021 154.62 16.2 138.42
1879.32 555.87 1323.45
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I think that's IP addresses Colin used on rawk.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
They go on about "winning it 6 times", as though that's the only trophy that means anything. I was thinking about this last night and it's a trophy you can win without winning a single game (at least in 90 minutes).

In the group stage, of the 4 teams, Team A draws every game 0-0, gaining 6 points. Team B wins the other 4 games they play, drawing the two against A, and win the group with 14 points. Teams B & C therefore draw 2 against Team A and lose 2 to Team B, then each wins against the other, giving them both 5 points each. So Team A, without scoring a goal or winning a game, go through to the last 16.

In the knockout stage, they draw 0-0 at home and 1-1 away, winning the tie. They do the same in the QF and SF, meaning they've got to the final without winning a game and scoring just 3 goals. The final is 0-0 after extra time and they win on penalties. 13 games, 13 draws and 3 goals scored. That would get you relegated in the PL. Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted to win it but winning the league is a far harder ask and much more of an accomplishment.
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It's far tougher to win the league and everyone knows that. A cup competition can be down to luck as much as anything. Liverpool, like Real Madrid, clearly have a confidence in the CL built on previous successes. It lifts them and gives them that extra level that can take them through games. Even when they look down and out, they can pull out a result.

That same thing has gone against them in the league where they bottled it time and time again. It became a mental block that took them 30 years to overcome. We've been in the CL for no time at all really in the context of the competition. The CL is far harder to win than the European Cup was but it has always been set up for the history boys with the old seeding.

We have established ourselves at that level and have some historic wins in big games. But we'll need to get that bit of good fortune to go on and win it. Chelsea and Liverpool have both won the CL (3 times in total) without winning their league title in the same season. That shows that one is tougher than the other. Anyone can beat any other side over 90 minutes.
 
lust overlord said:
To be fair,whilst the scenario above is possible, its very highly unlikely.

The "champions" league is harder to win nowadays when comparing it with the European cup,imo due to the seeding system for one,which virtually ensures the latter stages involve most of the heavyweight teams.
The days of Malmo and Bruges getting to the final are gone.
Along with the days of draws against the likes of crusaders or finn harps.

Winning it once,let alone six times is worth bragging about,to be fair,but I'd still rather win the domestic league title over it if I had to pick one trophy a season.
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Theyve won it twice when it was the Champions League and not the Mickey Mouse cup it once was and both times they weren’t Champions of England. League is head and shoulders above any cup competition all day long.
 
supercity88 said:
Chelsea and Liverpool have both won the CL (3 times in total) without winning their league title in the same season. That shows that one is tougher than the other. Anyone can beat any other side over 90 minutes.
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Both have done it without even qualifying for it through their league position, same with Madrid.
I'd also point out that the competition was going for 40 years or so before Barca got their first.
 
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