Liverpool thread 2020/21

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Awaiting reaction from Merseyside...

First they wanted the truth, then they got their truth.
They didn't want convictions, then went looking for convictions.
If it doesn't fit their narrative it's an injustice, I await pages upon pages of cover ups and injustices in the scouse dominated media, shame there isn't the same media coverage for the 39 murders in heysal.
 
First they wanted the truth, then they got their truth.
They didn't want convictions, then went looking for convictions.
If it doesn't fit their narrative it's an injustice, I await pages upon pages of cover ups and injustices in the scouse dominated media, shame there isn't the same media coverage for the 39 murders in heysal.
I'm sure the Sun will give them wall-to-wall sympathetic coverage in order to try and make up for the Scouser's perceived travesty after they told a few home truth's all those years ago.
 
First they wanted the truth, then they got their truth.
They didn't want convictions, then went looking for convictions.
If it doesn't fit their narrative it's an injustice, I await pages upon pages of cover ups and injustices in the scouse dominated media, shame there isn't the same media coverage for the 39 murders in heysal.
Although I hate the scousers for Heysel, and for milking Hillsborough for as much they can.... I think the fact that everyone has gotten away with this shit is atrocious. The law courts in this country are totally and utterly setup to protect the elite. 1 person (A Health and Safety guy at the ground) has been prosecuted.
 
Although I hate the scousers for Heysel, and for milking Hillsborough for as much they can.... I think the fact that everyone has gotten away with this shit is atrocious. The law courts in this country are totally and utterly setup to protect the elite. 1 person (A Health and Safety guy at the ground) has been prosecuted.
Agree with that but its not the courts. The tory government covered this up, its clear as day. The police at that time answered to the tories via back channels.
 
Although I hate the scousers for Heysel, and for milking Hillsborough for as much they can.... I think the fact that everyone has gotten away with this shit is atrocious. The law courts in this country are totally and utterly setup to protect the elite. 1 person (A Health and Safety guy at the ground) has been prosecuted.
There were certainly failings in the management of that game, but what the Souse fans fail to understand, or accept is that many if not all of the decision that were made in the build up to that game were taken because of the reputation of THEIR OWN FANS.

They have to bear some responsibility for what happened, but they won't.
 
There were certainly failings in the management of that game, but what the Souse fans fail to understand, or accept is that many if not all of the decision that were made in the build up to that game were taken because of the reputation of THEIR OWN FANS.

They have to bear some responsibility for what happened, but they won't.
I can only agree in part with what you say, but also think that much of your view is shaped by an overall dislike/hatred/scorn (whatever word or strength of feeling you hold) for the club and fans as a whole.
Yes Liverpool fans must take blame for what happened on the day, as they must for ewhat happened at Heysel. I do seek to deny or mitigate anything that some fans of "my club" did, have done or will do. There are complete wankers amongst our fans ...but there are at all clubs.

I think your response, although it may simply be due to the short nature of it, does not reflect the general view of all football supporters at the time. From the 70s through the 80s and 90s drink, drugs hooliganism seemed to be drawn to football. the view that it was fun to go for a ruck and pint(s) and Oh yes, the football may have been incidental for some.

As with everything in life I take the view that we should all accept our mistakes, stand by them and seek to apologise for them. Others may not like what you have done but you can at least then try and move on from them.

With all the milestones that have gone on and the ending of this last legal action I do hope that, whilst not forgetting the 96, that the fans and the club and the media can move on from this.

As was said by others, to keep on banging on about this, demanding someone is hung up for what happened (beyond the H&S guy) risks cries of hypocracy when considering those guilty of what happened at Heysel.

the old line..."people in glass houses"
 
The comparison to Heysel is a pretty shoddy false equivalence in my opinion. Firstly, people were convicted of crimes at the time, including 14 Liverpool fans. They went to prison. While it's clearly true that Liverpool fans don't want to talk about / fully acknowledge what happened there, the fact of the matter is that there was a clear resolution and justice was served at the time. There wasn't a coverup.

Secondly, Hillsborough is much more shocking in so far as the guilty parties were the authorities, not ordinary fans. Heysel was a crime, which is why people went to prison for it. Hillsborough might have involved crimes too, but more than that it was a political scandal. Mismanaging an event so badly that 96 people died - a lot of whom were very young, let's not forget - covering up the circumstances to falsely place the blame on ordinary citizens, and feeding disgusting lies to the press, is not something authorities should be doing. We should hold the authorities to a much higher standard than a bunch of random pissed up football fans who rightly went to prison.
 
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