Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

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kismet said:
In the summer of 2023 his contact is up and he can walk on a free. United and Chelsea would no doubt be interested. He's currently 29 and probably looking at a 3 year contract worth £20million per year.

Either he comes to an agreement with Liverpool which could mean other players ask for parity or they sell him this summer for around £60 million with no doubt Barca and PSG interested. I can't see them letting him run his contract down especially if Diaz impresses.
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Once again the issue comes down to FSG not wanting to spend the money...I think everyone knows you are going to have to pay him, the issue coming with anyone who wants parity or something similar.
I heard a friend say, although how on earth he would know, that VVD has something in his contract saying that he has to be the top paid player. I wonder if that is perhaps, if true, the sticking point as if they pay Salah then they have to bump the rest.
If that is true then personally I would say sell VVD as he doesnt look anywhere near as assured as pre injury.
If you are going to get rid of any of the front 3 then it would be Firmino first then Mane, but no way Salah
 
Protein Junkie said:
So Klubshopklopp says the dippers have no chance but the Beeb have to ask if they can catch us.
Like moths to a flame,like orcs in the dark out come the great unwashed to spew their bile on HYS.
Amongst the plethora of City bingo calls comes the beautiful claim about inflated sponsorship deals.
Just one question for any lurking dippers ?
Tell me honestly that there isn’t the faintest stench of monetary malpractice when you sell a flat track bully of a midfielder to Barcelona for ...... wait for it £135 million ?
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Transfer only happened due to neymar to PSG.

So in a roundabout way, dirty Arab oil money goes from PSG to Barca. Barca in the next window spunk over half of it on Coutinho. Where was the outrage from liverpool fans about receiving money from the I'll gotten gains of a sovereign state. Yes it didn't come directly, (is that money laundering?) but the point still stands. Plus the dirty oil money they received from Raz. Hypocrites of the highest order!
 
LGWIO said:
Once again the issue comes down to FSG not wanting to spend the money...I think everyone knows you are going to have to pay him, the issue coming with anyone who wants parity or something similar.
I heard a friend say, although how on earth he would know, that VVD has something in his contract saying that he has to be the top paid player. I wonder if that is perhaps, if true, the sticking point as if they pay Salah then they have to bump the rest.
If that is true then personally I would say sell VVD as he doesnt look anywhere near as assured as pre injury.
If you are going to get rid of any of the front 3 then it would be Firmino first then Mane, but no way Salah
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Yes FSG are a problem and I could well see VVD having a parity clause.

There is no doubt Salah has spoken with KDB and others who are on the £350k mark and he wants parity. It remains to be seen what Liverpool do. Firmino is now no longer a regular with the emergence of Jota.
 
kismet said:
Yes FSG are a problem and I could well see VVD having a parity clause.

There is no doubt Salah has spoken with KDB and others who are on the £350k mark and he wants parity. It remains to be seen what Liverpool do. Firmino is now no longer a regular with the emergence of Jota.
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Some serious rebuilding to do for sure, but still think they’ll be our closest competition for the next 5 years.
 
LGWIO said:
Once again the issue comes down to FSG not wanting to spend the money...I think everyone knows you are going to have to pay him, the issue coming with anyone who wants parity or something similar.
I heard a friend say, although how on earth he would know, that VVD has something in his contract saying that he has to be the top paid player. I wonder if that is perhaps, if true, the sticking point as if they pay Salah then they have to bump the rest.
If that is true then personally I would say sell VVD as he doesnt look anywhere near as assured as pre injury.
If you are going to get rid of any of the front 3 then it would be Firmino first then Mane, but no way Salah
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I think LFC board have a genuinely difficult decision to make with Salah. He is imo the best player in the world at the moment but would LFC be wise to give him a very expensive long term contract? No one knows how his game will change as he gets into his 30s.

I agree about VVD. Still playing well, but not as imperious as he was pre-injury. Laporte is not the same either.
 
Sir Joe Aguero said:
Some serious rebuilding to do for sure, but still think they’ll be our closest competition for the next 5 years.
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Yes you would like to think they will be, however a lot depends on FSG. At the moment the maxi8mum wage they will pay is £200k whereas us, Utd, Chelsea, Real, PSG and Barca will pay £350k.

They've done well via Coutinho and Suarez cash, plus the impact of Salah. Depends how long Klopp stays, the attack is sorted. VVD doesn't look the same at the moment and the midfield is very reliant on Fabinho.
The future of Salah is key.
 
Diaz looks very basic, stiff and upright. Think he'll be the new Markovic for them, loaned to Turkey in couple years.
 
I am truly shocked that Liverpool have not already won the league.

City must have paid off everyone with a back hander from Ill gained sponsors to somehow manage to sit top of the league…again.

List is not exhaustive:

every premier league team
every coach
every player
every sponsor
every owner
every groundsman
every agent
every broadcaster
every cop, even the blind ones in Mersey.
every candle shop owner

If only we had a world class team with a world class manager and a generous owner. One can dare to dream;)
 
alexmcity said:
Might be wrong, but I think Klopp makes a big mistake by not giving Salah and Mane a full week off after AFCON. Maybe Salah wants to play, but it's a mistake nonetheless.

Salah and Mane have played more minutes than any other PL player this season (all competitions). They are 2nd and 3rd for most minutes in the PL and international football combined, but if you include also the CL where they started every game in the group, they have played a lot, and they are nearly 30 y.o. VVD has played a lot too, more than Bernardo. They'll struggle to stay fresh, imo.
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We say this every season
 
Tangled up in blue. said:
We say this every season
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Not really. That's the first season in which Liverpool are in all competitions in February, and in which Salah and Mane have played many, many international games. Given Liverpool's style of play (they rely more on running than us to control games) and given the age of most of their key players, they are likely to struggle in the final 1-2 months, imo. Back in 18-19, their key players were 3 years younger. Now the likes of VVD, Salah and Mane are (nearly) 30, and have played more minutes this season than any of the key City players.

I'd be surprised if they keep running relentlessly come April and May. May be wrong, of course. Key is that we should rely on our strengths, and not on Liverpool's potential problems. If we are at our very best, we can win a big trophy or two.
 
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The Dippers have enough cover in forward areas , Diaz wasnt the player they needed even if he will be world class in the next fortnight , their midfield is mid table at best , zero creativity apart from the vastly overrated sick note Thiago. Their main attacking threat is from their full backs which says a lot about their midfield and why they play 60 yard balls "into the channels" or in other words play the Wimbledon way.
Just one defeat or draw knocks the Dippers out of contention , and they have shown previously they havent got the bottle , they fold like a cheap suit when the pressure is ramped up , at least after this season they only have to wait another 29 years for their next title.
 
alexmcity said:
Might be wrong, but I think Klopp makes a big mistake by not giving Salah and Mane a full week off after AFCON. Maybe Salah wants to play, but it's a mistake nonetheless.

Salah and Mane have played more minutes than any other PL player this season (all competitions). They are 2nd and 3rd for most minutes in the PL and international football combined, but if you include also the CL where they started every game in the group, they have played a lot, and they are nearly 30 y.o. VVD has played a lot too, more than Bernardo. They'll struggle to stay fresh, imo.
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Magic inhalers will help, no need to worry
 
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