Liverpool Thread - 2021/22

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

my view is that the toxicity is 99% driven by fans on social media who never attend matches. This is then driven up by the media shills where is seems primary measure of success is engagement and hits. it becomes a never ending circle of hatred that now appears to permeate to match going fans.

I know quite a few match going Dipper's from before the rise of social media who are awful human beings when it come to football matters.

 

[Bonzo Nododo]

Errrrr?

Cults in action

 

[shackattack]

Have had dealings with them on so many levels and they are relentless in their pursuit if you are deemed to disagree with them on anything.
The likes of Spirit of Shankly/ Anfield Wrap are no different than their average fan on social media. They all ramp up the hatred against teams and fanbases. Especially ones who they see as rivals- it was Everton in the 80s and 90s and now it's United with a newer level of hatred against yourselves

 

[b2w]

Probably sticking my neck out here as a liverpool fan here...but

Its actually very interesting seeing views on the fanbase. For my part, one visit to RAWK is enough to be beyond embarrassed about some of the views, but mentally you try and relegate that to the 'every club has those type of fans' box.

Several of my closed friends are Man city loyalists, and I know several others, and I've never had any issues. Probably helps that you can actually have an intelligent discussion about football with them.

From a Liverpool standpoint, perhaps controversial but I actually fully acknowledge that city are the better pure footballing side (depending on what your footballing taste is). I don't necessarily agree that they are the better team, but obviously these things are pretty subjective.

But on the current thread topic - yep, there are some awful supporters out there. I trust the better ones aren't in the minority, but we do exist! ;)

 

[philiph20]

Have had dealings with them on so many levels and they are relentless in their pursuit if you are deemed to disagree with them on anything.
The likes of Spirit of Shankly/ Anfield Wrap are no different than their average fan on social media. They all ramp up the hatred against teams and fanbases. Especially ones who they see as rivals- it was Everton in the 80s and 90s and now it's United with a newer level of hatred against yourselves

Which goes to explain why they are media darlings, our beloved press see that to quote yourself "...they are relentless in their pursuit if you are deemed to disagree with them on anything", you could also say they same regarding their relationship and the 'look the other way at their antics" by Merseyside police and i also get the impression that they are seen completely different as a club and a fanbase to Everton by Liverpool City Council, the abundance of out of town support who visit Anfield are seen as a cash cow and nothing stands in their way when it comes to getting what they want from the city council.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I know quite a few match going Dipper's from before the rise of social media who are awful human beings when it come to football matters.

Did any of them spend time inside a Belgian prison?

 

[edinburgh123]

Have had dealings with them on so many levels and they are relentless in their pursuit if you are deemed to disagree with them on anything.

One of them was mouthing off about how 'City couldn't even sell all their tickets for the derby against United this season' on Saturday evening in the hotel. I went over and put him straight (politely) and tried to explain we have a 'resale' policy as well so a game (not United - but any game) could sell out and then tickets would be on sale again but this doesn't mean it hasn't sold out it means people are reselling.
He couldn't understand the difference (predominantly down to just being stupid but mainly through refusing to listen to any explanation) and then his wife comically said "we are trying to have a quiet conversation here and 'you City gobshite' are coming over and talking this bollocks'. I tried to explain the irony of the fact I had 'come over' from 25 feet away in a crowded pub because I could hear their 'quiet conversation' over everything else but again - pointless. I just gave up but was amused to then hear their son singing "oh Manchester, is full of shite" in front of their proud parents that their 4 or 5 year old was singing songs like that. Classy bunch

 

[Elbow beards]

Cunts in action

Fixed :)

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Did any of them spend time inside a Belgian prison?

Quite possibly.

 

[shackattack]

Which goes to explain why they are media darlings, our beloved press see that to quote yourself "...they are relentless in their pursuit if you are deemed to disagree with them on anything", you could also say they same regarding their relationship and the 'look the other way at their antics" by Merseyside police and i also get the impression that they are seen completely different as a club and a fanbase to Everton by Liverpool City Council, the abundance of out of town support who visit Anfield are seen as a cash cow and nothing stands in their way when it comes to getting what they want from the city council.

The media rarely if at all will speak out about them especially after the treatment of the Daily Express journalist. The chief Of Merseyside police was a season ticket holder at Anfield so was he ever going to call them out or condemn them. The council as you say will do nothing because of the money they bring in.
The UEFA president Guillard who called them the worst fans in Europe and spoke of who else would rip tickets out of the hands of children after the CL final in Athens and citing how they had 25 incidents in Europe - and that was in i think 2009 !!