Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

[JASR]

The real question is why suddenly invite the Mayor of Turin over to LFC.
It is a song contest between countries that will be held in Liverpool. It has nothing to do with football AND dipper fc are not the sole club in that city.
They are just copying the rag PR re Munich.

if italys entry is a melancholic ballad about the originally joyful going away to a foreign land, a terrible incident visited on them and then their return in wooden caskets… then I’d say the Italians have a good chance of winning the popular vote from everyone but the red side of the host city.

 

[Bluesince1979]

How do you know this? Were you there? Now I'm not saying that there were zero Liverpool fans without tickets but again, this has been dismissed in the independent inquests as being a contributory factor to what happened. And on the topic of travelling to matches without tickets, if it was City fans in that end that day, do you think none of our fans would've gone over without tickets? Do you think none of our fans would've attempted to jib in?

The main cause of the disaster was down to the police completely failing in their duties in blocking off the tunnel (something that they'd done in previous years) leading to the central pens when those pens were full, allowing more and more fans to blindly pile into that tunnel. Incidentally, those central pens were already full well before kick-off, even though there were still thousands of fans outside - the vast majority of them with tickets by the way - queuing to get in.

No i wasnt there. But ill repeat a conversation i had with a big liverpool fan in the turn pike pub in wavertree once. It was after the game where they beat us 3-2 (pelligrini manager, toure got carried off)

This fella is in his 60s and follows liverpiol home n away.
He told me that liverpool as a club always had a problem with fans jibbing in. It was an epidemic for all clubs in the 80s (so not sure why u are mentioning city fans doing it, we ALL did it) but liverpool seemed to have a serious problem with it.

Dont forget that day i met him after the city game the dippers were particularly jovial because they thought they were going to win the league. So he had loosened up i guess.

He said that day , only the innocent died. Fans with tickets getting there early. He said , as a fan base, deep down they know where the crush originated. A mixture of ticketless fans pushing from the outside and fans with tickets pushing as they thought they would miss ko. He said (and i agree) that the police are still to blame for not funnelling fans into the side pens but really without the ticketless fans outside there wouldnt have been a problem.
As i imagine most scouse liverpiol fans do, he knew people who had died. But he said it was such a shame and a mess from both sides

Further into the night he showed me photos behind the bar of him and his mates on euro trips.
He pointed out one photo of them all at a ground where one person was stood up and another stood on the chair behind. Doubled up. He said it was a free for all that game, this was in the 90s. He kinda said its just their way. I was at lokeren with city and saw people being waved through. It goes on!

But two wrongs dont make a right, nonpoint goiing on about whataboutery, there was ticketless fans outside hillsborough that day

 

[Blue Mist]

They really don't give a shit about what they did in 1985, do they!

Dip wank to Italian dignitary.
'It's good of you to come along, we like to pay our respects. Last season we had an open top bus parade on the anniversary, over 500 people turned out, champagne the lot, you'd have loved it. We'll do it again sometime, in about 30 years if you're still about'

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

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Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”

 

[PistonBlue]

Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

"
Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”

Never their fault. You have to wonder what sort of dickhead is paying £250 to watch the current dippers incarnation get dicked again by Brighton.

 

[mattcity5]

Mate, why are you still after all these years trying to find something that you can use to apportion blame on to the fans for this tragedy?

There’s no evidence of misbehaviour. There’s no evidence of people climbing over walls. There’s no evidence of ticketless fans. Are you seriously asking why, with the best part of 100 people lay dead, they didn’t do a ticket check? And even if there was evidence of all those things, it’s nothing we all didn’t do back then. We all played up to a certain extent in the 80s. We all tried tried to blag it into games on occasions. ( Obvious not literally all )

There’s a whole host of valid reasons to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Please let this one go. Eight years earlier we were in a semi final. That exact same thing could quite easily have happened on that day if things had been slightly different. It could have been us. Our parents. Our children. Who went to watch a game of football and ended up piled up dead on the pitch. It’s the one thing that really should be above points scoring.

Yeah, it's been proven that that semi-final at Hillsborough was actually the only big match in the 80s when zero ticketless fans tried to get in without paying...

It happened all the time. The same outcome was narrowly avoided on numerous occasions. I wouldn't blame Liverpool fans for this as it was what fans of all teams tried to do.

I think once the tragedy happened it's difficult to prove either way if ticketless fans were in or not, so all reports/enquiries would say there was no proof ticketless fans were there. After the struggles the families had for some form of justice that's fair, but it doesn't mean it's totally accurate.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Mate, why are you still after all these years trying to find something that you can use to apportion blame on to the fans for this tragedy?

There’s no evidence of misbehaviour. There’s no evidence of people climbing over walls. There’s no evidence of ticketless fans. Are you seriously asking why, with the best part of 100 people lay dead, they didn’t do a ticket check? And even if there was evidence of all those things, it’s nothing we all didn’t do back then. We all played up to a certain extent in the 80s. We all tried tried to blag it into games on occasions. ( Obvious not literally all )

There’s a whole host of valid reasons to have a pop at Liverpool fans. Please let this one go. Eight years earlier we were in a semi final. That exact same thing could quite easily have happened on that day if things had been slightly different. It could have been us. Our parents. Our children. Who went to watch a game of football and ended up piled up dead on the pitch. It’s the one thing that really should be above points scoring.

Agree with much of this.I think it's highly unlikely that there was no misbeaviour by fans that day as it was commonplace (and indeed still happens today). That's irrelevant to the main point though that the authorities and safety systems should have been able to cope. V similar to the very sad events in London at that gig.

 

[jrb]

4 days ago.

Football fans told they face ban if they buy tickets from touts | ITV News

Tickets purchased by touts have been identified prior to this weekend’s match between Brighton and Liverpool and all the tickets linked to them will be blocked. | ITV News Meridian

www.itv.com

 

[Protein Junkie]

Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

"
Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”

Precis
Liverpool, fake tickets , victims.

 

[give it to gordon]

Apologies if already posted. From the BBC:

"
Brighton blocked 150 mostly Liverpool fans getting entry to the home section of the Amex Stadium for last weekend’s FA Cup fourth round tie after the Premier League club uncovered a scam involving ticket touts.

They discovered touts had set up multiple fake accounts to buy tickets for the game from the club and then resell for up to £250.

Once the club realised what was happening, they blocked the tickets, so the people holding them were unable to get into the stadium to watch the game, which Brighton won 2-1.

“It's an absolutely shameless exploitation of football fans,” said Brighton’s head of supporter services Jenny Gower. “Those who have fallen victim to this scam should contact their banks or credit card company to recover their funds.

“We understand that there are fans who are desperate to see their team but they were being charged up to £250 for tickets, which were essentially worthless.”

Dont believe a word of it