Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Not a big fan of Klopp but I think this is a great answer to the TAA England question. Explains the tactical demands he puts on him, why that exposes him defensively, then says it’s entirely OK for Southgate to choose a different RB based on his style of play and goes on a detour to point out how stupid it is that pundits and media try to define world class players by the one thing they’re not world class at.

The kind of answer that should really stop him getting asked about it ever again, but knowing the media it’ll be asked post match too.





 
Not a big fan of Klopp but I think this is a great answer to the TAA England question. Explains the tactical demands he puts on him, why that exposes him defensively, then says it’s entirely OK for Southgate to choose a different RB based on his style of play and goes on a detour to point out how stupid it is that pundits and media try to define world class players by the one thing they’re not world class at.

The kind of answer that should really stop him getting asked about it ever again, but knowing the media it’ll be asked post match too.






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Not a big fan of Klopp but I think this is a great answer to the TAA England question. Explains the tactical demands he puts on him, why that exposes him defensively, then says it’s entirely OK for Southgate to choose a different RB based on his style of play and goes on a detour to point out how stupid it is that pundits and media try to define world class players by the one thing they’re not world class at.

The kind of answer that should really stop him getting asked about it ever again, but knowing the media it’ll be asked post match too.







Yep and the problem is as always the fcuking rancid media in this country
 
I remember watching a few documentaries a while back. I think it was around 2005 to mark 20 years.
They had Liverpool fans on and they were just blaming everyone else apart from themselves. I just find it so crass. Yes the stadium was shite but people forget most stadiums back then were crap.
What I found most distasteful was the claim that if the juventus fans had stood there ground and not ran then a tragedy would have been avoided.

Look I’m not for one second saying that those fans were looking to kill the juventus fans but unfortunately it worked out that way in the most horrific of circumstances.
As a club they should have admitted that and dealt with it. Rather you have Chelsea fans being blamed for it the next day by the Liverpool chairman.

I know Liverpool are probably ashamed of it and would rather it be out of the public eye but it did happen and people died.

Rather than hide away behind the blaming of uefa or the police or Chelsea they should take it on the chin and deal with it.


If they did I believe they would get a little bit more respect from other fans etc.
That some use heysel as a form of “banter “ by other fans is abohorent as is singing songs or mocking hillsborough because of heysel as in some way it’s justified because of it.

Both are horrific tragedies and both were totally avoidable and equally both are entirely different on circumstance and blame. For hillsborough I’ve read and watched a lot and although the police were under tremendous pressure that day wrong decisions were made that lead to the deaths of innocent people the majority of whom were kids.

The police that day had no intention of causing a disaster but one evolved before their very eyes and should have been avoided. To read that even after that maybe 30 or so people could have been saved of for correct medical attention does not bear thinking about.

The problem as well as Duckinfield lied almost instantly when asked what had happened. From then on there was no coming back and the chain of events then spiralled that they had to pin the blame on the fans.

Hindsight I know but sometimes holding your hands up and saying I’ve made a mistake, I panicked I’m human I thought I was doing the right thing to prevent death or serious injury from occurring outside.

Yes it would not absolved him or the police of blame but maybe it wouldn’t have taken 30 years of pain to get to the truth.

Sorry I’ve rambled on a bit there.
The police had years of practice packing people into those pens. The crushes they caused were the reason we only went into the seats at Hillsborough and I still find it astounding that a large number of people involved that day didn't serve jail sentences.
 
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