Liverpool Thread - 2022/23

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Wouldn't put it past the tramp to walk before end of season.
I think he'll last to the end of the season then leave by 'mutual consent'.
They will of course big it all up and he will be taking a 'sabbatical'. But
they will give him the push. He has essentially become part of the problem and not part of the
solution. It's all downhill from here...
 
Reading those comments; they’re so cultishly brainwashed that they actually think it’s about Hillsborough. They have absolutely no self awareness whatsoever!

They killed 39 football fans at Heysel (a day when they had a number of flags in their end mocking Munich) and some of their cunts claimed it was Chelsea fans, others that it was Belgian skinheads, others blamed UEFA, others blamed the stadium, others said Juve fans started it… swathes of the cunts claiming it was not their fault.

They have many Steaua Bucharesti banners glorifying the deaths of those 39 fans that they unfurl whenever they play Everton… they never call their own fans out for it, and the media certainly never do, but are constantly crying when other fans have a pop at them about it. And they wonder why everyone always calls them the victims. Those banners are an utter disgrace, as was having their trophy parade on the anniversary of Heysel at the end of last season! Could you imagine what would be said by the Cult if South Yorkshire Police were found to have a big celebratory function on 15th April?

They’ve chanted ‘there’s only one Harold Shipman’ at City fans for years. A serial killer of Mancunians, someone who killed two and a half times more people than died at Hillsborough. But the Cult think that’s alright and funny to sing about.

They sang IRA songs at both recent games against Rangers. Manchester was bombed four times by the IRA with 277 people being injured (some having their lives changed forever from their injuries) and in another local IRA bombing two children died in Warrington… again, they think that’s alright and funny to chant.

They’ve been booing the national anthem for around three years now (they even boo’d the traditional FA Cup final anthem Abide With Me last season, all because they probably feel offended that it’s not their pre-game song being sung and there’s allowed to be other traditional songs sung before games other than their dirge!). Two Community Shields and two Cup finals. They disrupted a 27 second silence for the Queen dying and were chanting about her being in a box in recent games against Rangers.

They broke a window of a City fan coach in 2014, a City fan mini-bus in 2015, our team coach in 2018 and again last weekend. They spat at the City bench last season and threw coins at Pep this season. They pride themselves on telling the world that Anfield is the most hostile place on Champions League nights and that they will frighten the opposition with their bus ‘welcomes’, yet whenever Italians come to town and kick fuck out of them as a badge of honour for all Italians because of Heysel or because of their bluster about being the most intimidating, they all start crying about it. Again, it’s not their fault, they didn’t entice Italian hooligans to go to Anfield and have a go (Roma) or run round the Anfield area of Liverpool until the early hours of the morning running riot (Napoli)… it’s them being the victims again. If you like to dish out a hostile reception for visiting teams (something I don’t have a massive problem with, football fan culture is hostile, just don’t take it too far) and if you like to unfurl Steaua Bucharesti flags don’t cry when visiting fans take exception to it and kick fuck out of your fans. If you didn’t create the hostility, these visiting fans wouldn’t kick fuck out of you. They don’t at the Etihad, there have been a number of sets of visiting Italian fans who have got on very well with us.

They’ve gone ticketless to finals or other games so many times that they don’t see the stupidity in their actions.




A French Politician said Klopp was to blame for the chaos, and the evidence is there
He told ticketless Liverpool fans to go to Paris… and disruption came when thousands had fake tickets or no tickets and tried to enter the stadium… just like the Emirates, just like Athens, just like other games! It’s not a coincidence that it’s always them. How is it that the bottom tier of the Liverpool end in Paris was fucking chock-a-block yet there were still thousands outside with tickets?

It’s a repeated thing with their fanbase - repeated so many times it’s unbelievable how their fans don’t see it and always lay the blame on everyone else but themselves. It’s always UEFA’s fault, or the stadium, or the government of the country they’ve visited, the Police’s fault, the fault of locals or fans of the other team… they never take responsibility themselves, they never sit back and think ‘hang on a minute, I think someone from our fanbase needs to step forward and condemn our fans behaviour for once’.

As a club, they hacked City’s computer systems and got away with it. They organised a hate campaign that was lapped up and carried on by the media towards Raheem Sterling all because he dared to leave them. They failed Financial Fair Play but very strangely finished 8th and didn’t qualify for Europe in the season they would have been banned from Europe… all a bit odd that, a coincidence? Hmm, not sure. Funny how the negative press they would have got from a European ban would have been massive and they (after finishing 2nd two years earlier) finished 8th. Surely someone somewhere has investigated it?... nope, okay, as you were!

They were a major player in Project Big Picture that nobody wanted and was an insult to English football culture and history, and they were a major player in the European Super League that nobody wanted and was an insult to European football culture and history.

They are complicit in the organised hate campaign against Manchester City and Sheikh Mansour/Abu Dhabi/Emiratis, their manager is always coming out with lies about the way we are run, how we spend our money, what money we spend, and it’s always tinged with an anti-Emirati attitude… his comments after we were exonerated by CAS over the UEFA/FFP stuff was utterly pathetic ‘this is a bad day for football’ he said when the evidence against us was pretty much laughed out of court. The fucking toothy ****.

And their fans are openly racist towards Emiratis with their ‘dirty Arab oil money’ shit they’re always saying… yet they don’t see anything wrong with it. They have a shirt sponsor that was fined billions for money laundering for terrorist organisations yet moan about Abu Dhabi’s human rights abuses all the time.

When Luis Suarez was done for being racist to Patrice Evra, the Liverpool fanbase and manager and team all got behind him and all wore t-shirts supporting him. They backed their support behind a racist and played it like he was the victim of a hate campaign!

They don’t see anything wrong with anything their club or their fanbase ever does.

They always play the victims! They never admit it’s their fault, they always say it’s someone else’s fault. And they always bring up Hillsborough as their default back-up excuse claiming ‘the other boys said nasty things about Hillsborough’ (when most of the time no fucker even has!) to deflect away from their fans’ misdemeanours.

‘ALWAYS THE VICTIMS, IT’S NEVER YOUR FAULT’ has fuck all to do with Hillsborough but everything to do with the above and probably dozens of other instances that other sets of fans could bring up.

Brilliant post, just brilliant. Sums it up. Hard to argue with it, but they will.

As an Evertonian, one thing that grinds me about some of them (They are not all morons) is when we play a derby game and they claim we sang insults about Hillsborough. We had friends and family that died or were there. Why the feck would we ever insult that? We have always stood with them over Hillsborough. It angers me when these idiots say we did it. Every time we play them they claim it. In a day and age when almost everyone has a mobile phone not one video, or one recording, has ever been made of us singing it. If we ever had it would have been all over social media and all over the news. This is why people call them victims.
 
Reading those comments; they’re so cultishly brainwashed that they actually think it’s about Hillsborough. They have absolutely no self awareness whatsoever!

They killed 39 football fans at Heysel (a day when they had a number of flags in their end mocking Munich) and some of their cunts claimed it was Chelsea fans, others that it was Belgian skinheads, others blamed UEFA, others blamed the stadium, others said Juve fans started it… swathes of the cunts claiming it was not their fault.

They have many Steaua Bucharesti banners glorifying the deaths of those 39 fans that they unfurl whenever they play Everton… they never call their own fans out for it, and the media certainly never do, but are constantly crying when other fans have a pop at them about it. And they wonder why everyone always calls them the victims. Those banners are an utter disgrace, as was having their trophy parade on the anniversary of Heysel at the end of last season! Could you imagine what would be said by the Cult if South Yorkshire Police were found to have a big celebratory function on 15th April?

They’ve chanted ‘there’s only one Harold Shipman’ at City fans for years. A serial killer of Mancunians, someone who killed two and a half times more people than died at Hillsborough. But the Cult think that’s alright and funny to sing about.

They sang IRA songs at both recent games against Rangers. Manchester was bombed four times by the IRA with 277 people being injured (some having their lives changed forever from their injuries) and in another local IRA bombing two children died in Warrington… again, they think that’s alright and funny to chant.

They’ve been booing the national anthem for around three years now (they even boo’d the traditional FA Cup final anthem Abide With Me last season, all because they probably feel offended that it’s not their pre-game song being sung and there’s allowed to be other traditional songs sung before games other than their dirge!). Two Community Shields and two Cup finals. They disrupted a 27 second silence for the Queen dying and were chanting about her being in a box in recent games against Rangers.

They broke a window of a City fan coach in 2014, a City fan mini-bus in 2015, our team coach in 2018 and again last weekend. They spat at the City bench last season and threw coins at Pep this season. They pride themselves on telling the world that Anfield is the most hostile place on Champions League nights and that they will frighten the opposition with their bus ‘welcomes’, yet whenever Italians come to town and kick fuck out of them as a badge of honour for all Italians because of Heysel or because of their bluster about being the most intimidating, they all start crying about it. Again, it’s not their fault, they didn’t entice Italian hooligans to go to Anfield and have a go (Roma) or run round the Anfield area of Liverpool until the early hours of the morning running riot (Napoli)… it’s them being the victims again. If you like to dish out a hostile reception for visiting teams (something I don’t have a massive problem with, football fan culture is hostile, just don’t take it too far) and if you like to unfurl Steaua Bucharesti flags don’t cry when visiting fans take exception to it and kick fuck out of your fans. If you didn’t create the hostility, these visiting fans wouldn’t kick fuck out of you. They don’t at the Etihad, there have been a number of sets of visiting Italian fans who have got on very well with us.

They’ve gone ticketless to finals or other games so many times that they don’t see the stupidity in their actions.




A French Politician said Klopp was to blame for the chaos, and the evidence is there
He told ticketless Liverpool fans to go to Paris… and disruption came when thousands had fake tickets or no tickets and tried to enter the stadium… just like the Emirates, just like Athens, just like other games! It’s not a coincidence that it’s always them. How is it that the bottom tier of the Liverpool end in Paris was fucking chock-a-block yet there were still thousands outside with tickets?

It’s a repeated thing with their fanbase - repeated so many times it’s unbelievable how their fans don’t see it and always lay the blame on everyone else but themselves. It’s always UEFA’s fault, or the stadium, or the government of the country they’ve visited, the Police’s fault, the fault of locals or fans of the other team… they never take responsibility themselves, they never sit back and think ‘hang on a minute, I think someone from our fanbase needs to step forward and condemn our fans behaviour for once’.

As a club, they hacked City’s computer systems and got away with it. They organised a hate campaign that was lapped up and carried on by the media towards Raheem Sterling all because he dared to leave them. They failed Financial Fair Play but very strangely finished 8th and didn’t qualify for Europe in the season they would have been banned from Europe… all a bit odd that, a coincidence? Hmm, not sure. Funny how the negative press they would have got from a European ban would have been massive and they (after finishing 2nd two years earlier) finished 8th. Surely someone somewhere has investigated it?... nope, okay, as you were!

They were a major player in Project Big Picture that nobody wanted and was an insult to English football culture and history, and they were a major player in the European Super League that nobody wanted and was an insult to European football culture and history.

They are complicit in the organised hate campaign against Manchester City and Sheikh Mansour/Abu Dhabi/Emiratis, their manager is always coming out with lies about the way we are run, how we spend our money, what money we spend, and it’s always tinged with an anti-Emirati attitude… his comments after we were exonerated by CAS over the UEFA/FFP stuff was utterly pathetic ‘this is a bad day for football’ he said when the evidence against us was pretty much laughed out of court. The fucking toothy ****.

And their fans are openly racist towards Emiratis with their ‘dirty Arab oil money’ shit they’re always saying… yet they don’t see anything wrong with it. They have a shirt sponsor that was fined billions for money laundering for terrorist organisations yet moan about Abu Dhabi’s human rights abuses all the time.

When Luis Suarez was done for being racist to Patrice Evra, the Liverpool fanbase and manager and team all got behind him and all wore t-shirts supporting him. They backed their support behind a racist and played it like he was the victim of a hate campaign!

They don’t see anything wrong with anything their club or their fanbase ever does.

They always play the victims! They never admit it’s their fault, they always say it’s someone else’s fault. And they always bring up Hillsborough as their default back-up excuse claiming ‘the other boys said nasty things about Hillsborough’ (when most of the time no fucker even has!) to deflect away from their fans’ misdemeanours.

‘ALWAYS THE VICTIMS, IT’S NEVER YOUR FAULT’ has fuck all to do with Hillsborough but everything to do with the above and probably dozens of other instances that other sets of fans could bring up.

Wish just one newspaper had the balls to print this verbatim
 
Brilliant post, just brilliant. Sums it up. Hard to argue with it, but they will.

As an Evertonian, one thing that grinds me about some of them (They are not all morons) is when we play a derby game and they claim we sang insults about Hillsborough. We had friends and family that died or were there. Why the feck would we ever insult that? We have always stood with them over Hillsborough. It angers me when these idiots say we did it. Every time we play them they claim it. In a day and age when almost everyone has a mobile phone not one video, or one recording, has ever been made of us singing it. If we ever had it would have been all over social media and all over the news. This is why people call them victims.
I stopped going Derby games for many reasons - that being one of them. I lost 4 mates at Hillsborough and like a lot of blues we supported them then as we will now. But they have used Hillsborough as a get out clause on so many occasions that I find it insulting to all the families. People who have themselves said they wanted to respect it in a more low key fashion. Hillsborough wasn't just about them, lots of blues were affected by it and respect needs to be a two way thing.
 
The booing if the National Anthem isn't just about the Royal Family. All the ex service men and women, all the ones who are serving now ,99.999% sing it with honour, they have an allegiance,a bond, they are proud to serve the head of state. That shit stain fan base wants fycking wiping out .
Try dissing the American flag, they would rip their heads off for the disrespect to the flag and armed forces.
 
Was thinking how shit City must be to actually lose to Liverpool!

....but as was said, whenever you lot come to town we play as if its a cup final. The contrast with yesterday and dare I say it the complacency that the team went into the Forest game with, well shows up that far too many of them believed the hype and needed a kick up the backside.

And... @grim up north warning , don't look in the invasion thread, there are people making jokes about nuclear war. I'm just trying to be helpful to save your blood pressure
 
I stopped going Derby games for many reasons - that being one of them. I lost 4 mates at Hillsborough and like a lot of blues we supported them then as we will now. But they have used Hillsborough as a get out clause on so many occasions that I find it insulting to all the families. People who have themselves said they wanted to respect it in a more low key fashion. Hillsborough wasn't just about them, lots of blues were affected by it and respect needs to be a two way thing.
Jeez, I had no idea you'd lost friends. I'm so sorry.

Another thing they seem to forget is that one of the founding members of the HJC is an Evertonian. Ste Kelly. Like I said, all the Everton fans I know, me included, support the campaign and always have, and the club has been respectful - I'll always love Martinez for that speech - but not gonna lie, the way some Liverpool fans behave towards us, I wonder what the point is. Still, you've got to see the bigger picture. If the draw had been different, 97 Everton fans would have died. And when a small minority of fuckwit Everton fans do make Hillsborough jokes on social media, they'll get a bollocking from other Everton fans.

The derby scares the shit out of me. I'm not sure which fixture is worse, ours or Anfield but there's a reason why we sell very few away tickets for Anfield. Not that our fans are angels, but their fans fucking scare me. Especially with the way they treated Pickford.
 
It’s unbelievable, it really is.
Wiki:

Did Liverpool fans blame Chelsea for Heysel?


When Heysel happened, Liverpool FC tried to displace the blame from their fans. Their chairman, John Smith, claimed there were lots of southern accents heard in the strands and pointed the finger at Chelsea fans and they blamed the location of the final.
 
Jeez, I had no idea you'd lost friends. I'm so sorry.

Another thing they seem to forget is that one of the founding members of the HJC is an Evertonian. Ste Kelly. Like I said, all the Everton fans I know, me included, support the campaign and always have, and the club has been respectful - I'll always love Martinez for that speech - but not gonna lie, the way some Liverpool fans behave towards us, I wonder what the point is. Still, you've got to see the bigger picture. If the draw had been different, 97 Everton fans would have died. And when a small minority of fuckwit Everton fans do make Hillsborough jokes on social media, they'll get a bollocking from other Everton fans.

The derby scares the shit out of me. I'm not sure which fixture is worse, ours or Anfield but there's a reason why we sell very few away tickets for Anfield. Not that our fans are angels, but their fans fucking scare me. Especially with the way they treated Pickford.

We was at Villa Park the same day and though we won it was hard to concentrate and celebrate even. I don't know Ste Kelly personally but his story about his brother Michael is heartbreaking. People forget as well that the families themselves did not always get on re direction of the campaign hence the different support groups.
Personally I always had a lot more time for John Glover and Anne Williams than the other group though am not belittling any of the families in any way.
 
I think at times taking the high ground is better and I'd be happy for always the victims to never to be sung. I've seen some Liverpool fans argue that the song saying "always" includes Hillsborough because always implies every time.

Ironically the more they complain the more likely it is to be sung. It's a provocative song so when it provokes it just encourages people to carry on singing it. Liverpool are also a provocative fan base though so we are now stuck in a race to the bottom. I'd rather we be bigger than that though.
 
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