For me, it's difficult to evaluate Klopp at Liverpool this season or even Rodgers last season and this. Looking at all the current squads on paper where do people think Liverpool's squad stands in the Prem, what should be their par position in terms of the players they have? They nearly won the league because they had Suarez (plus Sterling and Sturridge fit and in form) but once you take Suarez out they look like also rans on paper, take Sterling out and Sturridge's injury problems on top of Suarez leaving and they really do look a mid table squad to me, in a Prem where quite a few teams have bought well, have good managers and have become far more competitive. I think Klopp is a genuinely top manager but he's got one hell of a job on there IMO, I think he will make them top 4 contenders though.