Local Elections 2023

[Bluesince1979]

Only busy twats and people seeking weird power would want to be a local councillor

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Only busy twats and people seeking weird power would want to be a local councillor

Or MP and certainly PM. It's an old adage that the sort of folk attracted to political power are generally exactly the sort that you wouldn't want to have it!

 

[threespires]

Was it Oldham or Rochdale where they actually took a couple of people to court for voter fraud?

Oldham named as election fraud 'hotspot' as watchdog calls for voter IDs

The Electoral Commission called for all voters to be required to show photographic proof of their identity at polling stations

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

plus:

"The local elections in Oldham in 2000 were overshadowed by allegations of vote-rigging and claims that votes in the names of dead people were cast. A police investigation led to a series of convictions the following year."

You are right to pull me up for my overly strident 'no evidence whatsoever'. It would have been more accurate to say it's not a material problem. There will always be the occasional issue but in the last GE in 2019 we had one person convicted of electoral fraud. So though the Electoral Commission agrees with the idea of voter ID they have also said they don't actually think we have a significant issue with voter fraud in this country.

Personally I don't have an issue with voter id in principle. My issue is that it's virtually irrelevant compared to other more critical areas of electoral reform but yet it has been prioritised in an utterly cynical fashion.

 

[Vic]

Interesting from pollster John Curtice.

On the evidence of our key wards, turnout is only slightly down on both 2019 and 2022, while there is no marked evidence that turnout has fallen more in places where fewer people possess a passport.

Meanwhile there is no clear evidence that the swing to Labour is lower in wards where turnout has fallen most. Between them, this evidence does not lend much weight to claims that the introduction of voter ID would depress turnout in a way that would be to Labour's disadvantage.

 

[Scottyboi]

Only busy twats and people seeking weird power would want to be a local councillor

My WhatsApp chat groups rule me out of ever being a Councillor! Scandal waiting to happen.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Just read the tories have lost Windsor council.

Fucking Windsor!

 

[shemnel]

maybe i'm just hoping too much, or not taking the positives, but some councils are still returning 50% tory councilors (and some are still Tory majority). I mean, that's a lot of votes for a wretchedly corrupt and racist party.

 

[Bluesince1979]

My WhatsApp chat groups rule me out of ever being a Councillor! Scandal waiting to happen.

prison waiting to happen

 

[Bluesince1979]

Or MP and certainly PM. It's an old adage that the sort of folk attracted to political power are generally exactly the sort that you wouldn't want to have it!

As billy connolly said, “if anyone shows a desire to be a politician , they should immediately banned from being one”

 

[shemnel]

Prof John Curtice, the BBC’s elections expert, told the Today programme that the Tories could end up losing 1,000 seats by the end of the day.

But he said that Labour’s share of the vote did not seem to be higher than it was 12 months ago (when Labour was on 35% in the local elections, according to Curtice’s projected national share calculation, and the Tories on 35%).

Asked if he agreed with Labour that it was on track to win the next general election (see 7.23am) on the basis of these results, Curtice said “it depends what you meant by win”.

He said the results certainly suggested Labour would be the largest party after the next general election. But he said it was still “uncertain” whether Labour was on course to have a majority government.