No, that would be incredibly dangerous so early in the flight. It seems they got one engine to restart but it did not have time to reach full thrust. The other engine had not restarted.
London bound Air India 787 Dreamliner crashes at Ahmedabad
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That is the question now. If it was not a fault, it was deliberate.
They still have to identify which pilot asked “Why did you switch to stop?”
The Dreamliner can achieve enough lift with one engine and the gear down.
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A look at Flight radar just shows how may flights there are at any one time
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I wonder if the black box would indicate if the switch offs were made to operate by the crew.
We know they tried to get the engines restarted but did they actually enable the switch off capability that caused engines to cut out.?
If they did not enable the cut offs then it happened somehow via the programing, if they did it points to the crew using it incorrectly.
We know they tried to get the engines restarted but did they actually enable the switch off capability that caused engines to cut out.?
If they did not enable the cut offs then it happened somehow via the programing, if they did it points to the crew using it incorrectly.
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Easily done as the flight deck has several mics,
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About as sensible a suggestion as flat earth and no moon landing.
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Just a normal day. But more congestion as there are big swathes of airspace with nothing in it eg Ukraine, Iran
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Quite irritating that he only covers part of the story.
Fuel switches transitioned from Run to Cut-Off.
Then 10 seconds later they are transitioned from Cut-Off back to Run.
So is there any scenario/SOP whereby this "switch-off/switch-on" type sequence could be appropriate eg in an attempt to restart 2 failed engines?
And secondly is it possible that the switch transitions occurred due to a software or hardware fault ie with no physical action on the part of the crew.
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That's what I was alluding to a bit back.
I can’t find the article now, I think it was embedded in the BBC’s live updates yesterday, however someone of standing within the aviation industry was saying some of these Dreamliners had a fault which meant the switch could be activated more easily somehow. The fault was found and it was recommended to be rectified but wasn’t a legal requirement.
I didn’t attain the finer details, apologies n
I didn’t attain the finer details, apologies n
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I understand it would be dangerous but the pilot may of thought the consequences wouldn’t be as severe and was a little blasé
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It’s just that I’m sure I read one of the pilots was a trainee
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After 9/11 I started to develop a bit of flying fear. I read that at any given time there are approximately 10,000 flights in the air and it completely cured me.
Just NO. Why on earth would he not realize the consequences of turning off both engines a few seconds after take off?? This is a bonkers thought.
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The F/O had 1148 hours on B787s. I'd check your sources.
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It may well be bonkers mate but it would appear that these switches can’t be activated accidentally and the audio suggests one of the pilots asked the other if he had activated them, all very strange.
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Plane has crashed at Southend Airport by looks of this. Small one by sounds of it.
www.bbc.com
All flights cancelled.
Southend Airport plane crash: Flights cancelled after incident
All flights from the airport are cancelled as emergency services respond to the incident.
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All flights cancelled.
Strange indeed. But not done as a test !!!
Look further up the thread. Was it deliberate or a systems failure is the question. Suicide? Turning the engines off seconds after take off is 99% likely to end in death.
A test?! Jesus Christ, aye 3 seconds after rotation the captain decides to cut fuel off to both engines and see what his co pilot is made of…
The odds of the switches moving/commands inputted by themself are vanishingly small, this has been done manually by one of the two pilots. The only question is whether it was intentional (suicide) or he’d somehow switched them off thinking he was doing something else (though I don’t think there’s anything else to do 3 seconds after take off…)
The odds of the switches moving/commands inputted by themself are vanishingly small, this has been done manually by one of the two pilots. The only question is whether it was intentional (suicide) or he’d somehow switched them off thinking he was doing something else (though I don’t think there’s anything else to do 3 seconds after take off…)