Lucy Letby infant murders trial - Guilty verdict (P 13)

[Bluemoon dan]

All this forcing people to attend basically hinges on wanting to have a feeling of almost revenge. But that does then rely on the perpetrator actually being bothered by what they've done. If they've shown no contrition to that point I wouldn't particularly want to see them smirking or looking completely disinterested when they're sentenced.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

One of the mums just said not appearing is a final act of wickness, the families want to be able to front her up with their victim statements , i agree that she is a coward but she probably just cant be arsed and is not bothered in reality

I get the families wanting to see justice done etc, but for the rest of us it just makes us a baying mob.

 

[bert38]

It is easy. Obviously don’t need to for stuff like shoplifting, but for serious crimes like this, with devastated families I think someone could be handcuffed and gagged and carried in, forced to face the judge and hear the sentencing.

it really isn't that easy...

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

All this forcing people to attend basically hinges on wanting to have a feeling of almost revenge. But that does then rely on the perpetrator actually being bothered by what they've done. If they've shown no contrition to that point I wouldn't particularly want to see them smirking or looking completely disinterested when they're sentenced.

Good point. I think most folk would like to see a good Jeremy Kyle style meltdown with booing crowd etc, but this woman is clearly unhinged and could react as you suggest.

 

[Victorinodennistua]

Throw the fucking lot at her

Solitary confinement in a damp place if we can’t hang her.

 

[domalino]

All this forcing people to attend basically hinges on wanting to have a feeling of almost revenge. But that does then rely on the perpetrator actually being bothered by what they've done. If they've shown no contrition to that point I wouldn't particularly want to see them smirking or looking completely disinterested when they're sentenced.

I get the families wanting to see justice done etc, but for the rest of us it just makes us a baying mob.

If you ever watch any true crime documentaries and see interviews a decade on from cases like this, the families almost always say that the trial/verdict/sentencing never gives them what they were looking for out of it.

I believe the families of Letby’s victims are about to learn a very difficult lesson that seeing their child’s murderer getting sentenced is not going to give them any peace, or feel better, or help their grieving process. They won’t feel justice, the desire for revenge won’t be satiated, the awful grief they feel won’t be lightened.

I completely understand why they think it will bring them closure to read a victim impact statement to her or see her face when she finds out how long she’s going to prison, but I think the weight of past experience tells us it won’t help.

 

[mackenzie]

I also believe she should be there for the sentencing. It smacks of contempt for both the process and the victims that she isn't.
However, I wouldn't be surprised if she has actually convinced herself it's all a terrible mistake and she is innocent. She's undoubtedly an immensely fucked up individual and, the notes to herself aside (which were done 7/8 years ago), I think this is the only way she is now functioning. Everything will completely shatter if she acknowledges to herself what she has done.
That's not to say I pity her (far from it), more a way of trying to understand how she is behaving.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

All this forcing people to attend basically hinges on wanting to have a feeling of almost revenge. But that does then rely on the perpetrator actually being bothered by what they've done. If they've shown no contrition to that point I wouldn't particularly want to see them smirking or looking completely disinterested when they're sentenced.

Indeed.

It was a key feature of her behaviour that she went and intruded on the families grief so I wouldn't be surprised if someone like that actually got some satisfaction by "drinking it" when getting sentenced.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Indeed.

It was a key feature of her behaviour that she went and intruded on the the families grief so I wouldn't be surprised if someone like that actually got some satisfaction by "drinking it" when getting sentenced.

That too.

 

[Betterdeedthan red]

Solitary confinement in a damp place if we can’t hang her.

Yep.
Preferably at the bottom of a reservoir