Lucy Letby infant murders trial - Guilty verdict (P 13)

[BerkshireBlue]

Is there any new compelling evidence that has come to light?

Or errors made by the judge or other processes that weren't followed?

there always is

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’m somewhat uncomfortable about this conviction. And in turn feel uncomfortable about that.

My brother and his wife are both north west consultants and I had Sunday lunch with them the weekend after the convictions and they both said they were sure she did it. For medical and logistical reasons. And they are therefore probably better placed than me to evaluate that.

But I think the evidence is questionable. Doesn’t mean I think she’s innocent. But that isn’t the legal and factual test.

There’s something about this that doesn’t quite add up.

Controversial view, I know. Like I said, I feel uncomfortable about this. The verdict was so emphatic and there have been so few dissenting voices. Both of which give me cause to question my own view on this, but I still have concerns around this conviction.

But I wasn’t there. At the trial. And that absolutely needs to be said.

 

[levets]

Just read the article about this case in the New Yorker. It is fucking alarming to say the least.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/...-guilty-of-killing-seven-babies-did-she-do-it

This article is blocked in the UK you can't read it without setting your VPN to elsewhere.

Extremely alarming!

 

[tweety]

Extremely alarming

What did they say?

 

[MellowJoe]

How does us regular folk read it? If Gordon davis moustache has quibbles then I wanna know

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

How does us regular folk read it? If Gordon davis moustache has quibbles then I wanna know

To me, the overall framework of evidence suggests her guilt, but not all the Is have been dotted and Ts crossed.

There are some gaps in the evidence that suggest there could be some reasonable doubt, but as GDM suggests, we weren’t present at the trial and not privy to all the information.

 

[MellowJoe]

To me, the overall framework of evidence suggests her guilt, but not all the Is have been dotted and Ts crossed.

There are some gaps in the evidence that suggest there could be some reasonable doubt, but as GDM suggests, we weren’t present at the trial and not privy to all the information.

Oh, :/ i thought she might have been innocent there for a while

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Oh, :/ i thought she might have been innocent there for a while

You might be right. She’s a fruitloop either way and needs to be watched through a small lens in a door.

 

[pee dubya]

What did they say?

To summarise, shift pattern and deaths correlation that a large part of the case is based on isn't proof in itself, some uncertainty over the actual cause of death in some of the cases, the entire department was a bit of clusterfuck which could definitely have contributed to some of the deaths, the defence was a bit sketchy, an expert witness was a bit controversial, there was a lack of general scrutiny over the validity of the prosecution/evidence and a culture of protecting the NHS reputation maybe contributed to some of the deaths, and potentially the desire to blame an individual rather than accept systemic failure.

It does kind of make you doubt the conviction when you read it through, even if it still seems like in all probability she did it.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I’m somewhat uncomfortable about this conviction. And in turn feel uncomfortable about that.

My brother and his wife are both north west consultants and I had Sunday lunch with them the weekend after the convictions and they both said they were sure she did it. For medical and logistical reasons. And they are therefore probably better placed than me to evaluate that.

But I think the evidence is questionable. Doesn’t mean I think she’s innocent. But that isn’t the legal and factual test.

There’s something about this that doesn’t quite add up.

Controversial view, I know. Like I said, I feel uncomfortable about this. The verdict was so emphatic and there have been so few dissenting voices. Both of which give me cause to question my own view on this, but I still have concerns around this conviction.

But I wasn’t there. At the trial. And that absolutely needs to be said.

Do you have a thing for leggy blondes on the bunny boiler spectrum?