Luke shaw

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1) We brought in Fernandinho,who's on another planet.
2)Because he's crap and scared of the ball.
3)Probably the one worth keeping
And i'd rather give MDM a new 10 year contract than wait for them to come good !

Have you been on the magic mushrooms or u about 12 years old?.

Firstly Barry would have been very useful to us he's still a very good player. Fernandinho & Yaya are having to play a lot of games.

Lescott has been playing well & he's nowhere near as bad on the ball as people make out.

MDM is a liability, the argument that he's better on the ball is wearing thin, in case you didn't notice he keeps making absolute massive f*ck ups in key games and he makes Lescott look quick!!!

Richards & Rodwell were two excellent young English players and now they're being written off
by City fans, it makes no sense, injuries have set them back.

Either your not a City fan or your just a complete and utter thick tw*t - which one is it????

Or maybe just a city fan with a different opinion,.

- Fernandinho a massive step up on Barry, especially given the way that Pellegrini plays AND the fact that it is a WC year meant that not only didnt we want to keep Barry, but he also didnt want to stay. End of.

- We need a powerful left-sided CH who can also play. Lescott can't. Nastasic is cover, but not 1st team (seems to have suffered from lack of concentration & playing in an expansive side in pretty much the same way that Barry would have).

- I thought on watching the pre-season tournament that Milner played well, and he's certainly useful, but - when push comes to shove - he's competing with Yaya, Nasri, Silva, Navas. The only one he would possibly have the chance of getting infront of is Navas, and given that he can't provide the impact that Navas does his opportunities are bound to be limited.

- Rodwell & Richards are crocks. In the case of the former it's been a career long thing, great potential, even shown a few flashes for us, but his hamstrings are fucked. Amazed that we signed him really as we can't say that we weren't warned. Richards is - and has been for a couple of years - at least a stone overweight. IMO the bulk that he carries can't help his muscular problems. I know he says that he doesn't lift weights but my sincere hope is that once Lescott departs this weird, homo-erotic game of oneupmanship that he they seem to have might mean that Micah reduces in bulk and concentrates on football rather than being our club version of Lenny fucking Henry.

 

[Bilboblue]

Thought this thread was meant to be about Luke Shaw?

 

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Thought this thread was meant to be about Luke Shaw?

And ?

 

[totallywired]

Thought this thread was meant to be about Luke Shaw?

And ?

And what?

 

[lost_n_spaced]

Thought this thread was meant to be about Luke Shaw?

And ?

And what?

And what, what ?

 

[LoveCity]

IMO, Chelsea have the best left-back in the league at the moment (Azpilicueta) and Mourinho has been publicly gushing over him, something I'm sure Shaw has read or heard about. I know Shaw is a Chelsea fan, but if you offer him the #1 left-back spot, which I don't think Maureen will do, then that could swing things in our favour.

The hard decision for us would be Clichy or Kolarov out...

Clichy - counts as homegrown, lower wages than Kolarov, solid defensively

Kolarov - the most dangerous attacking left-back in the league (if not the best defensively...) when you give the ball to him to cross, so always a useful rotation/impact option

Definitely a new left-back on the way I think, the links with Shaw and Moreno are very strong.

 

[BigOscar]

There's no way that Azpilicueta is the best LB in the league, he's just the most solid, as he does absolutely no attacking at all (as is Mourinho's way). With that being said, I don't think Shaw is Mourinho's kind of player at all. He's much better going forward than defending and he's far from th finished article. Mourinho doesn't play people who aren't already good enough and he doesn't value anything in defenders other than how solid they are. I'd be very surprised if he wanted him. (less surprised if Abramovich did)

 

[SwiftBlue]

There's no way that Azpilicueta is the best LB in the league, he's just the most solid, as he does absolutely no attacking at all (as is Mourinho's way). With that being said, I don't think Shaw is Mourinho's kind of player at all. He's much better going forward than defending and he's far from th finished article. Mourinho doesn't play people who aren't already good enough and he doesn't value anything in defenders other than how solid they are. I'd be very surprised if he wanted him. (less surprised if Abramovich did)

While I agree Mourinho is a very defensively minded manager, to say he doesn't care about their attacking talents is simply not true. Why else would he have played A.Cole in his first spell at Chelsea, Maicon at Inter and recently Marcelo at Real when there were more defensive options available to him? Have to admit though that there's not much of an offensive threat carried by that backline of Chelsea's at the moment.

 

[sam-caddick]

There's no way that Azpilicueta is the best LB in the league, he's just the most solid, as he does absolutely no attacking at all (as is Mourinho's way). With that being said, I don't think Shaw is Mourinho's kind of player at all. He's much better going forward than defending and he's far from th finished article. Mourinho doesn't play people who aren't already good enough and he doesn't value anything in defenders other than how solid they are. I'd be very surprised if he wanted him. (less surprised if Abramovich did)

While I agree Mourinho is a very defensively minded manager, to say he doesn't care about their attacking talents is simply not true. Why else would he have played A.Cole in his first spell at Chelsea, Maicon at Inter and recently Marcelo at Real when there were more defensive options available to him? Have to admit though that there's not much of an offensive threat carried by that backline of Chelsea's at the moment.

Ivanovic has been decent for them going forward this season, I think he has scored 3 goals this season but I am not sure on his assists.

John Terry will always get a few in a season too.

 

[BigOscar]

There's no way that Azpilicueta is the best LB in the league, he's just the most solid, as he does absolutely no attacking at all (as is Mourinho's way). With that being said, I don't think Shaw is Mourinho's kind of player at all. He's much better going forward than defending and he's far from th finished article. Mourinho doesn't play people who aren't already good enough and he doesn't value anything in defenders other than how solid they are. I'd be very surprised if he wanted him. (less surprised if Abramovich did)

While I agree Mourinho is a very defensively minded manager, to say he doesn't care about their attacking talents is simply not true. Why else would he have played A.Cole in his first spell at Chelsea, Maicon at Inter and recently Marcelo at Real when there were more defensive options available to him? Have to admit though that there's not much of an offensive threat carried by that backline of Chelsea's at the moment.

Ivanovic has been decent for them going forward this season, I think he has scored 3 goals this season but I am not sure on his assists.

John Terry will always get a few in a season too.

Scoring goals from set pieces is not the same as attackingthough is it? Azpilicueta does not get forward, he does not participate in attacks. He has no assists, no goals and doesn't even average one cross every two games.

As for why Mourinho played Ashley Cole in his first spell, it was because he was an exceptional LB at that point, both attacking and defensively, as was Maicon in his time at Inter and he balanced them out with unadventerous fullbacks on the other side (Chivu and Ferreira). As for Marcelo, he did many things differently at Madrid that he wouldn't normally do, as his usual style would not have been accepted (probably why he failed there) and even then he spent £30m on a leftback to hopefully replace Marcelo, while keeping the offensively inept Arbeloa as his unopposed RB. (still no idea why he did that)

Others may disagree, but as far as I can tell, Mourinho picks the most solid defender, then any attacking they can offer on top is a bonus.

 

[dachoosen1]

Im just interested here but who were the more defensive players Jose could have played? Coentrao from what ive seen is worst defensively then Marcelo. At Chelsea it was between Cole and Bridge, IMO Cole being a better defensive player. And at Inter Maicon's competition at RB was Zanetti who was used mostly at CM and Santon who cant have been to old at the time.

 

[BigOscar]

Im just interested here but who were the more defensive players Jose could have played? Coentrao from what ive seen is worst defensively then Marcelo. At Chelsea it was between Cole and Bridge, IMO Cole being a better defensive player. And at Inter Maicon's competition at RB was Zanetti who was used mostly at CM and Santon who cant have been to old at the time.

That's essentially my point. Although he has at times had fullbacks who were good going forwards, they were the most solid defenders available as well.

I very much doubt that Mourinh would see Shaw as a defensive upgrade on Azpilicueta, so I don't think he'd want him

 

[SrilankanBlue]

Goal have been spot on regarding their City news of late so can be taken seriously-

Manchester City prepared to table £30m bid for Shaw

Chelsea, Manchester United and Tottenham are also keen on the prodigious 18-year-old but Manuel Pellegrini's men are confident of winning a hotly contested battle

By Paul Clennam

Manchester City are prepared to blow their Premier League rivals out of the water with a £30 million bid for Southampton starlet Luke Shaw this summer, Goal understands.

City first registered their interest in January and the subject of Shaw's availability was broached again when Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino attended the Under-21 Premier League clash between the two clubs at the Etihad Stadium earlier this month, with elite development squad coach Patrick Vieira also present.

The Manchester giants were encouraged by the nature of the talks and are now increasingly confident of seeing off a host of rival suitors to secure one of the hottest properties in English football.


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Manuel Pellegrini has earmarked the left-back spot as a key area of improvement for his side, with neither Gael Clichy nor Aleksandar Kolarov convincing the Chilean this season.

Shaw, 18, is regarded as the finest domestic talent of his generation and is battling Ashley Cole for a place in England's World Cup squad, having made his full Three Lions debut against Denmark earlier this month.

Chelsea are long-term admirers of Shaw - a boyhood Blues fan - and possess a geographical advantage over other interested clubs with the youngster's parents residing in Raynes Park, just a short drive from the club's Cobham training base.

However, the Blues' bid to capture the left-back is complicated by the fact that he is represented by Stellar Group, the same management firm who represent Cole, whose contract expires this summer.

City believe Cesar Azpilicueta's impressive performances since displacing Cole at left-back have made Shaw wary of summer move to Stamford Bridge.

David Moyes is also in the market for a new left-back as he continues to make plans for a summer overhaul of his Manchester United squad and has identified Shaw as a top target.

As reported by Goal, United made a £20m move for Shaw on January and the Premier League champions are expected to step up their bid to sign him in the next window.

Tottenham are also in the mix to sign Shaw and have launched a charm offensive on the player's family and representatives, who enjoy a strong relationship with chairman Daniel Levy.

Both Chelsea and United have made if clear through third parties that they are prepared to pay up to £25m to land the Southampton left-back, though City's intent takes the potential bidding to a new level.

Sources expect Shaw to join the club that Stellar advise him to, with all signs point to him leaving St Mary's Stadium this summer.

Goal,com

 

[decmancity]

Indeed. Paul Clennam clearly has a source at the club.

He is clearly a talented player and can only get better, 30m is a lot but when you consider it can be 10+ years of service it isn't too bad.

 

[cmdub]

Indeed. Paul Clennam clearly has a source at the club.

He is clearly a talented player and can only get better, 30m is a lot but when you consider it can be 10+ years of service it isn't too bad.

Yup and just reaffirms the other rumours that were interested in Shaw. Think it'll end up being him or moreno as I dont think we could do both

 

[zlaz3r]

Shaw and a CB + maybe Valdez which Le'Equip is saying we are in advanced talks about, would be just about the perfect summer. Maybe throw in Isco in the mix also.

 

[FantasyIreland]

I think Shaw would be capable of going straight into our first 11.I'm not convinced that would be the case at Chelsea

The same could be said of the Rags' team but surely we are a far more attractive proposition??

Fingers crossed,he looks ideal.

 

[Davs 19]

Shaw and a CB + maybe Valdez which Le'Equip is saying we are in advanced talks about, would be just about the perfect summer. Maybe throw in Isco in the mix also.

Valdez will never go somewhere he'll warm the bench.

 

[nmc]

I think Shaw would be capable of going straight into our first 11.I'm not convinced that would be the case at Chelsea

The same could be said of the Rags' team but surely we are a far more attractive proposition??

Fingers crossed,he looks ideal.

We could all get straight into the Rags first 11.

 

[NoahCity]

Shaw and a CB + maybe Valdez which Le'Equip is saying we are in advanced talks about, would be just about the perfect summer. Maybe throw in Isco in the mix also.

Need a CM too.