Lyon CL QF Post-Match Thread

Over a season you finish where you deserve to. New coach comes in, players work harder to impress = honeymoon period. No team finishes in a false position. They finished 7th in a mediocre league. All teams have injuries.

Apparently we just lost against one the best teams out there. We should be proud we managed to score against a team that finished 7th in a farmers league because they had two players with long-term injuries. Why didn’t Pep come out and say we were the true underdogs in this matchup?
 
I still can’t fathom last night’s team. I don’t understand why Pep fears the opposition so much. Even still if we go 3-5-2 play Walker in the back 3 and Cancelo and Mendy wide. Fernandinho steps into midfield so no need for both Gundogan and Rodri so Rodri plays with Bernardo’s energy beside him.

Instead we have no pace in the back 3, 2 slow holding midfielders, our best full back playing as a wing back, our best wing back on the wrong side and our creator in chief isolated.
 
We lost this game and many others this season in the last transfer window.

We didn't buy a quick CB to replace Kompany and all of our goals conceded yesterday and the formation change were based on us having slow vulnerable centre backs.

I don't even believe buying Usain Bolt will rectify the type of goals we have conceded this season.

Kompany's pace had already gone and it was his sheer force of character and will to win that saw him and us through that 14-game title winning run-in.

The season beforehand, Stones and Otamendi were playing just as high and we dominated, yet came unstuck against the teams who can punish any shortcoming in Europe.

I firmly believe that good players can still be the wrong players.

Our constant inability to get close to making tackles in midfield and get back in, is leaving our defenders ever more exposed, due to Fernandinho being moved and ran into the ground.

Rodri and Gundo are a fundamental issue, they are never going to improve pace and teams are now just waiting for their chance to fly past them when the ball breaks down.

The elephant in the room is do we just tread water like this again until Pep decides if he is going to sign an extension at some point?

We can't move forward with real momentum again until the board know where they stand.

Or we sign someone like Messi!!
 
Well the morning after the night before, I have braved the usual suspects and surprisingly City arent quite getting the annihilation I expected. If anything there is a an air of disappointment, much as they hate us it kind of ends their interest in this seasons truncated CL, yes they can wax lyrical about Bayern but without an English contender it all seems a bit flat. I’m not going to retread the obvious fuck ups but I guess if we are going to fuck up at least its a competition where the prize money will probably be much reduced as there have been no sell out stadiums for the final stages.
 
I would find this much easier to deal with if we had set up in our normal way, did everything we normally do with the attacking brilliance at our disposal, creativity, pace, drawing Lyon out of their shape, Kevin in the middle, pinpoint balls for Raheem and Gab to run onto. If we lost (fairly) doing that, knowing we'd done everything in our power to win, I could deal with it.

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Can you imagine Klopp changing his Mane, Salah, Firmino trio to go 3 at the back when they face Lyon?

Klopp has fast midfielders and fast defenders. We needed legs in midfield, Bernado, foden, Kevin to close down their final balls over the top.
 
No. How can you be this reductive.

If we lost Aguero, Laporte, Sterling, Walker, Bernardo & Ederson to injury and finished 7th, but they were all fit and firing again by the CL mini tournament, would we be the 7th best side in England when the tournament came around?

No. Of course we fucking wouldn't.
There you go again 'If this, if that'. You're assuming we lose all those players to injury and all the other big teams don't lose their equivalents. 'If' doesn't come into it. Lyon are 7th best in France. Finished 7th.
 
Didn’t understand why he completely changed things from how well we played against RM.

Why start Garcia if he wants to leave?

as much as I rate Gundo, Ferds and Rodri. All 3 together can’t play together and Ferds definitely showed his age last night.

2-2 if Rahem bagged that.

oh well, other than the mess around the 2nd goal can’t complain really.

better side beat us. Hope they win the thing now
 

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