Lyon CL QF Post-Match Thread

I don't understand how people still can't grasp what Pep was trying to do last night. People look at the change of formation as a defensive strategy and it wasn't, it was a change of shape to allow us to play out from the back because they use two strikers and not one like Madrid. The implementation was abysmally executed and the player selection (too many slow players in combination) caused us huge problems but conceptually it made sense.

OK i get that BUT why were MCFC more scared of Lyon than Lyon were scared of MCFC, and i dont mean that in a big headed way. City should of had more confident of their ability and try to force our style of play on them. By City changing style it gave Lyon the confidence oh look City are worried about us !
 
Sorry for linking to my own tweet, but easiest way to share the image. I really can't get this lineup out of my head if we *had* to play the way Pep set us up. Looks vastly more suited surely...


Vastly better. I don’t understand why we possibly have Mendy in the squad if its NOT to play on the left side of that formation. Seriously, what is he for if the manager is starting Cancelo over him there? Could ask the same thing about Cancelo on the right tbh.
 
He isn't quite good enough for the very top level.

Can you imagine Aguero, Kane or Lewandowski missing that chance he had last night?

Aguero missed a pretty identical chance in the 2-0 loss to Spurs this season. He also missed a tap in not that much harder than Sterling's in the 2-1 loss to Leicester last season that almost cost us the league.

That's Jesus' only problem - people have shit memories. Aguero's missed penalty is the reason we went out last year as well, so don't tell me he's never cost us at the "very top level".
 
He isn't quite good enough for the very top level.

Can you imagine Aguero, Kane or Lewandowski missing that chance he had last night?
We've all seen Aguero miss easier chances, the standout being against Chelsea (I think) from 2 yards with a completely open goal after a Bernardo cross in front of the South Stand. Thankfully he rectified it a few minutes later from 25 yards but to suggest the misses don't happen is just bollocks.
 
(I posted this in the transfer forum I'll post it here to) I don't think pep sees foden as a midfielder so we need a replacement for David Silva, difference between us and bayern is they have power, technique and goals in their midfield, Muller (goals) Goretzka (power and strength ball winning ability) thiago (technical creator) our midfield when playing 4 3 3, kdb (creator technical and goal scorer) David Silva (Technical/creator) Rodri (technical, good passer, and creator) we are missing a Goretzka someone with power and strength who can bully the ball of players and let our creators create chances, we had that with fernandinho but he can't play there anymore so our midfield is missing that edge and aggression.

yet City were the 1st team to have 5 players score double figures in one season... premier league history !
 
Still mulling over the hugely disappointing defeat and performance last night.

So the three at the back that was far from a success was implemented due to Pep’s worry about the pace of Lyon’s front and their ability to get in down the sides of the centre backs, so he preferred three defenders to deal with them than two, which I guess makes sense. Still present with those three defenders though was a high line and a lack of pace, so it didn’t resolve things. Surely moving Walker into the right side of the three would have had a more positive outcome ?

Thing is that would just have exacerbated the fact we were going away from what we do well and overly focusing on Lyon’s strengths. Yes we needed to be aware and cautious of their threat and counter-attacks but surely we should have played more to our strengths!

So after all the money spent on this backline Pep worry about the pace of Lyon? None of those player cost more than 20M€

So why buying 50m players if we cant outscore Lyon with 2CB Denayer a city reject and Marcal a 33 or 34 yeard old from Besiktas
 
I don't understand how people still can't grasp what Pep was trying to do last night. People look at the change of formation as a defensive strategy and it wasn't, it was a change of shape to allow us to play out from the back because they use two strikers and not one like Madrid. The implementation was abysmally executed and the player selection (too many slow players in combination) caused us huge problems but conceptually it made sense.

Every time Mancini tried 352 it was a disaster
 

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