Madeleine McCann

I thought the pedo ring was a little far fetched and one of his wilder theories. I guess those who look into conspiracy have to come up with stuff like that, it’s the role, if you know what I mean.

The Mcanns are people who live in the higher class. They’ve always seemed a little cold to me and they certainly socialise in some strange circles.


I was kind of in agreement with you until the Clement Freud thing popped up. It's just too weird that he's living in that area and having cocktail parties for them in the weeks following her (insert your own belief here). Then I saw those photos of her in adult make up that look to be from the holiday and you think there could be legs in this thing.
 
I was kind of in agreement with you until the Clement Freud thing popped up. It's just too weird that he's living in that area and having cocktail parties for them in the weeks following her (insert your own belief here). Then I saw those photos of her in adult make up that look to be from the holiday and you think there could be legs in this thing.

I agree but conversely, would the Mcanns be so docile to be seen with someone in that circle, in public, so soon? The media spotlight was bright.

This whole case has been a mess from the start. I can see why people would draw conspiracies. The very nature of the event, the people, lends itself to it.
 
I found it very easy to get drawn down the rabbit hole in this case, thankfully forgotten most of it. I believe it is a cover up and Kate is struggling to hold it together and was forced to lie.
 
For anyone with a few hours to spare Richard D. Hall has done many hours of investigations into this case. It shows everything about her disappearance and subsequent cover up are are 'state' influenced. There is a suggestion of paedophilia and money laundering through investigation contractors.
https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=185&part=1&gen=1 is films 1 to 4 and there is a total of 8 covering every aspect.

Some will brand Richard as a conspiracy nut, but he performs detailed investigation an analysis before making his own mind up and will let you decide what you think. He's covered many topics and I find his shows fascinating. He's covered the usual stuff like NASA and 9/11 but others like the Jo Cox Assasination, Didcot Murders, Derrick Bird and so on.
In the middle of watching this, fairly interesting but it would be nice to see him post a list of his sources
 
I doubt it’s state/tax payer money here. I know for a fact that Brian Kennedy (rich Cheshire bloke, ex Sale Sharks owner, got a helicopter and 2 private jets last time I heard) is a friend of the family and has sunk a load into this investigation. It’s probably private money. You’re still right though - Melanie and Brian move in different circles.

The extra £150K has come directly from the Home Office, ie the taxpayer.
 
The dogs for me GD. The apartment was also free of any DNA (more or less), it had clearly been cleaned out prior to investigation. It may not prove it in a court of law, but there is enough in this case that makes it beyond question from my point of view. Non of the testemants make sense (when they eventually gave them), the whole routine of their day from the crèche to the hotel. Lots of people telling lots of lies and that suggests a cover of some type.

I also believe the reaction of the Portuguese police in those really early, initial moments is telling. Some have said they were unprofessional, personally I think they had made a fairly early call that the Mcanns were telling lies. Now that certainly doesn’t excuse the lack of reaction, they should absolutely have followed the book process, but like I said, it’s just another little pointer to me.

Of course I may be completely wrong, but put me on a jury and I’d think these 2 were completely guilty.
Thanks for that.

If she’s died in there (which is perfectly plausible) it would require almost super-human levels of presence of mind and control to respond in the manner you describe - after being confronted with the corpse of your own child. On the basis no evidence relating to the body has subsequently come to the fore, that would be sufficient for me (based on what I know, which tbh is fairly limited) to be unable to be sure of their guilt.
 
theres 2 well known women who's lost their children denise bulger and kate mcann and i've never seen a photo of mrs bulger without her looking utterly worn down now compare her to the photos of mcann..a world apart
 
Thanks for that.

If she’s died in there (which is perfectly plausible) it would require almost super-human levels of presence of mind and control to respond in the manner you describe - after being confronted with the corpse of your own child. On the basis no evidence relating to the body has subsequently come to the fore, that would be sufficient for me (based on what I know, which tbh is fairly limited) to be unable to be sure of their guilt.

I’ll give way to your more expert opinion here, esp as I’m sure I know even less of the case than you do, but would his profession not perhaps lend him a greater degree of ‘presence of mind & control’ than the average person?
 
I always remember a copper telling me about a murder 100 yards down my road - that if the victim had been cute/pretty child/affluent/rich parents/wealthy/sexy, it would have been on Crimewatch and the 6 o'clock news. Never forgotten that one.
 
Is your point about finding about what happened to her or is it about how you dont like her parents?

Their social standing has nothing to do with what happened that night (unless we believe some of the conspiracies). My point is the shite which happened after.
 
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Thanks for that.

If she’s died in there (which is perfectly plausible) it would require almost super-human levels of presence of mind and control to respond in the manner you describe - after being confronted with the corpse of your own child. On the basis no evidence relating to the body has subsequently come to the fore, that would be sufficient for me (based on what I know, which tbh is fairly limited) to be unable to be sure of their guilt.

Absolutely. And even more presence of mind for a whole group to cover it.

But I believe that’s what happened. Sickening. Sinister. Beyond my comprehension.
 
Dying to see what Netflix have.

The McCann's wanted nothing to do with this.

Netflix trailer shows they've actually interviewed Robert Murat who I haven't seen say much ever. They've also got an interview with Gamble and 8 hours is getting into Richard D Hall territory with far more resources, so who knows where they'll take it.
 
It was discussed on tv today,the McCanns will only take part in something that wil help them find maddie,this isn't a doco it's a drama and it doesn't reveal anything we don't already know,their man theory is child trafficing which we already know
 
The two cnuts should be done with child neglect,leaving your fucking kids alone while they piss off with friends for a meal and drinks,said it before if they had been from a council estate they would have faced charges,the whole Madeline disappearance has overshadowed their neglect in the first place..
 

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