Maggie Thatcher

[Ancient Citizen]

The public showed there appreciation in the 45 election.

Labour landslide

Which was promptly overturned by the conservatives at the following election.

Wrong....

The 1951 United Kingdom general election was held twenty months after the 1950 general election, which the Labour Party had won with a slim majority of just five seats. Labour called the election for 25 October 1951 hoping to increase their majority.

Labour defeat is significant for several reasons: the party polled almost a quarter of a million votes more than the Conservatives and their National Liberal allies combined, won the most votes that Labour had ever won (and has ever won as of 2014) and won the most votes of any political party in any election in British political history. Despite this, it was the Conservatives who formed the next government with a majority of 16.

Under the first past the post electoral system, Labour votes translated into increased majorities for MPs in safe seats, rather than into gaining new seats.

My mistake, I forgot the slim majority gained next. The point still stands though, the tories under Churchill formed the next government.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Thatcher was a Northerner.

which makes it harder to understand the dislike for northern folk

Grantham, Lincolnshire. The north?

Ask anyone from London about Lincolnshire, it will not be seen as 'Southern.'

 

[foxy]

Which was promptly overturned by the conservatives at the following election.

Wrong....

The 1951 United Kingdom general election was held twenty months after the 1950 general election, which the Labour Party had won with a slim majority of just five seats. Labour called the election for 25 October 1951 hoping to increase their majority.

Labour defeat is significant for several reasons: the party polled almost a quarter of a million votes more than the Conservatives and their National Liberal allies combined, won the most votes that Labour had ever won (and has ever won as of 2014) and won the most votes of any political party in any election in British political history. Despite this, it was the Conservatives who formed the next government with a majority of 16.

Under the first past the post electoral system, Labour votes translated into increased majorities for MPs in safe seats, rather than into gaining new seats.

My mistake, I forgot the slim majority gained next. The point still stands though, the tories under Churchill formed the next government.

He performed badly as a domestic Prime Minister, still a great War Time leader.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Which was promptly overturned by the conservatives at the following election.

Wrong....

The 1951 United Kingdom general election was held twenty months after the 1950 general election, which the Labour Party had won with a slim majority of just five seats. Labour called the election for 25 October 1951 hoping to increase their majority.

Labour defeat is significant for several reasons: the party polled almost a quarter of a million votes more than the Conservatives and their National Liberal allies combined, won the most votes that Labour had ever won (and has ever won as of 2014) and won the most votes of any political party in any election in British political history. Despite this, it was the Conservatives who formed the next government with a majority of 16.

Under the first past the post electoral system, Labour votes translated into increased majorities for MPs in safe seats, rather than into gaining new seats.

My mistake, I forgot the slim majority gained next. The point still stands though, the tories under Churchill formed the next government.

And ridiculously ineffective it was too. Churchill had suffered a stroke while on holiday in the south of France in the summer of 1949. In June 1953, when he was 78, Churchill suffered a more severe stroke at 10 Downing Street. News of this was kept from the public and from Parliament, who were told that Churchill was suffering from exhaustion.

Churchill admirers gloss over the 1951-55 Premiership with good reason.

 

[The perfect fumble]

which makes it harder to understand the dislike for northern folk

Grantham, Lincolnshire. The north?

Ask anyone from London about Lincolnshire, it will not be seen as 'Southern.'

They think Watford Gap Services are the north but it doesn't make it so. People from Lincolnshire don't consider themselves northerners and Thatcher certainly didn't.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Grantham, Lincolnshire. The north?

Ask anyone from London about Lincolnshire, it will not be seen as 'Southern.'

They think Watford Gap Services are the north but it doesn't make it so. People from Lincolnshire don't consider themselves northerners and Thatcher certainly didn't.

I know people from Lincolnshire, they certainly don't consider themselves Southerners.
I don't recall Thatcher saying she was a Southerner, but if you find something that says she did, fair enough, but I'd question her Geography if she did.Immingham is in Lincolnshire, Hull is a few miles away, If you told John Prescott he was a Southerner, you'd get a lively response.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Ask anyone from London about Lincolnshire, it will not be seen as 'Southern.'

They think Watford Gap Services are the north but it doesn't make it so. People from Lincolnshire don't consider themselves northerners and Thatcher certainly didn't.

I know people from Lincolnshire, they certainly don't consider themselves Southerners.
I don't recall Thatcher saying she was a Southerner, but if you find something that says she did, fair enough, but I'd question her Geography if she did.Immingham is in Lincolnshire, Hull is a few miles away, If you told John Prescott he was a Southerner, you'd get a lively response.

I live in Norfolk and go to Lincolnshire a lot, believe me, they may not see themselves as southerners, but they do not identify with the north in any shape or form. But then Thatcher was always an outsider, a woman, from "trade", with pretensions, they can, and in her case definitely, be the worst class bigots. A little unsure of their class status they become zealots, worse than the toffs, born in to privilege, they are like religious converts, often the most fanatical, her phrase "not one of us" sums her up quite nicely.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Name a Tory that has been good for the country?

Winston Churchill?

He wasn't that much of a Tory he sat for over two decades as a liberal mp, nearly left again in the 30's and he was certainly no dyed in the wool like Madge!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Name a Tory that has been good for the country?

Winston Churchill?

The public showed there appreciation in the 45 election.

Labour landslide

Your response is a complete non-sequitur.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Grantham is in the Midlands. Spent some time there in the 90's; pretty dull place. As a useless bit of trivia many of the pubs have the prefix 'Blue': Blue Dog, Blue Pig, Blue Man etc.. which were renamed by the local landowner, The Earl of Tollemache iirc, in the 19th century, to reflect his political leanings.

<a class="postlink" href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_houses_and_inns_in_Grantham" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_h ... n_Grantham</a>

Edit: it was the Duke of Rutland, not the Earl of Tollemache.