Man City V Wigan pre match thread.

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It's the combination that bothers me, mate. Vinny with Demichelis? Well, ok, just about (although there's a lot on here who'll disagree with me: cf. a certain goal scored not so very long ago by a certain Sunderland striker). Vinny with Nastasic? Well, pretty good last season, and that, make no mistake, is our long-term combination, whatever Nastasic's failings this season. He'll come back, he's very young. Vinny with Joleon: definitely, Joleon's a good player when he's got Vinny next to him, and he proved it over and over again during the title winning season (although there are strong signs that Pellegrini does not rate Lescott and he's not long-term for us).
On this question of burn-out, which I'm alert to. It seems to me that a central defender does not burn out to the extent that a box-to-box midfielder does, or even a striker who's constantly looking to shake his marker off. A central defender's essential job is to read balls coming at him, and to move into the appropriate position to mop up. Then, if they're skilled — as Vinny is — to move out of their box with the ball at their feet and release it at just the right moment to a midfielder who's in a better position. By the time they've got to the halfway line, they shouldn't have that ball any more. Then they should hold back. All this, Vinny does excellently, but I'm certain that this doesn't involve getting through as many miles on the park as many other players get through. Plus one other thing: Vinny's just come back from, what was it?, a four week lay-off. And was that the first time he's been injured this season? I seem to remember that it's the second, but I could be wrong. Yaya plays every single game if he's even vaguely fit. Beast seemed to play every single game, in every competition, until he got injured, and I think that's come back to bite him on the arse, big time. Silva's in the same category. These players, yes, must be rested.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
It's the combination that bothers me, mate. Vinny with Demichelis? Well, ok, just about (although there's a lot on here who'll disagree with me: cf. a certain goal scored not so very long ago by a certain Sunderland striker). Vinny with Nastasic? Well, pretty good last season, and that, make no mistake, is our long-term combination, whatever Nastasic's failings this season. He'll come back, he's very young. Vinny with Joleon: definitely, Joleon's a good player when he's got Vinny next to him, and he proved it over and over again during the title winning season (although there are strong signs that Pellegrini does not rate Lescott and he's not long-term for us).
On this question of burn-out, which I'm alert to. It seems to me that a central defender does not burn out to the extent that a box-to-box midfielder does, or even a striker who's constantly looking to shake his marker off. A central defender's essential job is to read balls coming at him, and to move into the appropriate position to mop up. Then, if they're skilled — as Vinny is — to move out of their box with the ball at their feet and release it at just the right moment to a midfielder who's in a better position. By the time they've got to the halfway line, they shouldn't have that ball any more. Then they should hold back. All this, Vinny does excellently, but I'm certain that this doesn't involve getting through as many miles on the park as many other players get through. Plus one other thing: Vinny's just come back from, what was it?, a four week lay-off. And was that the first time he's been injured this season? I
seem to remember that it's the second, but I could be wrong. Yaya plays every single game if he's even vaguely fit. Beast seemed to play every single game, in every competition, until he got injured, and I think that's come back to bite him on the arse, big time. Silva's in the same category. These players, yes, must be rested.

Yeah I agree with all that you say mate, Vinny is the player that maybe could play the rest of the games. But is there one game to rest it I think its this game.
 
Pantillimon should play, made this great save against Argentina recently

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asplund2 said:
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
It's the combination that bothers me, mate. Vinny with Demichelis? Well, ok, just about (although there's a lot on here who'll disagree with me: cf. a certain goal scored not so very long ago by a certain Sunderland striker). Vinny with Nastasic? Well, pretty good last season, and that, make no mistake, is our long-term combination, whatever Nastasic's failings this season. He'll come back, he's very young. Vinny with Joleon: definitely, Joleon's a good player when he's got Vinny next to him, and he proved it over and over again during the title winning season (although there are strong signs that Pellegrini does not rate Lescott and he's not long-term for us).
On this question of burn-out, which I'm alert to. It seems to me that a central defender does not burn out to the extent that a box-to-box midfielder does, or even a striker who's constantly looking to shake his marker off. A central defender's essential job is to read balls coming at him, and to move into the appropriate position to mop up. Then, if they're skilled — as Vinny is — to move out of their box with the ball at their feet and release it at just the right moment to a midfielder who's in a better position. By the time they've got to the halfway line, they shouldn't have that ball any more. Then they should hold back. All this, Vinny does excellently, but I'm certain that this doesn't involve getting through as many miles on the park as many other players get through. Plus one other thing: Vinny's just come back from, what was it?, a four week lay-off. And was that the first time he's been injured this season? I
seem to remember that it's the second, but I could be wrong. Yaya plays every single game if he's even vaguely fit. Beast seemed to play every single game, in every competition, until he got injured, and I think that's come back to bite him on the arse, big time. Silva's in the same category. These players, yes, must be rested.

Yeah I agree with all that you say mate, Vinny is the player that maybe could play the rest of the games. But is there one game to rest it I think its this game.

On the face of it, it looks like the easiest, I'm with you there. Trouble is, if we start thinking that or rather, if the players start thinking that, then we'll get done! And you know what? I'm getting a taste for this going to Wembley business. I want us to do it again. Very soon. ;-)
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
asplund2 said:
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
It's the combination that bothers me, mate. Vinny with Demichelis? Well, ok, just about (although there's a lot on here who'll disagree with me: cf. a certain goal scored not so very long ago by a certain Sunderland striker). Vinny with Nastasic? Well, pretty good last season, and that, make no mistake, is our long-term combination, whatever Nastasic's failings this season. He'll come back, he's very young. Vinny with Joleon: definitely, Joleon's a good player when he's got Vinny next to him, and he proved it over and over again during the title winning season (although there are strong signs that Pellegrini does not rate Lescott and he's not long-term for us).
On this question of burn-out, which I'm alert to. It seems to me that a central defender does not burn out to the extent that a box-to-box midfielder does, or even a striker who's constantly looking to shake his marker off. A central defender's essential job is to read balls coming at him, and to move into the appropriate position to mop up. Then, if they're skilled — as Vinny is — to move out of their box with the ball at their feet and release it at just the right moment to a midfielder who's in a better position. By the time they've got to the halfway line, they shouldn't have that ball any more. Then they should hold back. All this, Vinny does excellently, but I'm certain that this doesn't involve getting through as many miles on the park as many other players get through. Plus one other thing: Vinny's just come back from, what was it?, a four week lay-off. And was that the first time he's been injured this season? I
seem to remember that it's the second, but I could be wrong. Yaya plays every single game if he's even vaguely fit. Beast seemed to play every single game, in every competition, until he got injured, and I think that's come back to bite him on the arse, big time. Silva's in the same category. These players, yes, must be rested.

Yeah I agree with all that you say mate, Vinny is the player that maybe could play the rest of the games. But is there one game to rest it I think its this game.

On the face of it, it looks like the easiest, I'm with you there. Trouble is, if we start thinking that or rather, if the players start thinking that, then we'll get done! And you know what? I'm getting a taste for this going to Wembley business. I want us to do it again. Very soon. ;-)

Hehe yeah, I think we are thinking the same here mate, its just a thin line how much we will risk or if we should go All in more or less the last part of the season. Hard to know, but think Pelle will get it right :)
 
asplund2 said:
This team is good enough to win ovre Wigan at home and none of those lads was playing in natinal team so they are rested. We need to give Kompany, Zabaleta a rest, In my opinion also Yaya and Fernandinho (On bench). Players that are fit to come on in second half is Silva, Navas, Aguero. Need to be enough, cant we trust those players in this game we doesnt need this big squad if we are going to play best team every game.

Pantilimon

Richards - Demicheles - Lescott - Clichy

Garcia - Rodwell

Milner - Nasri - Lopez

Negredo
I'd play Micah too, but Pellegrini seems reluctant to do that.

I think I'd rest Yaya and Fernandinho after midweek internationals

-------------------Hart
Micah---Kompany--Lescott--Clichy
------------Garcia--Milner
-------Navas--Nasri--Lopes
---------------Negredo

Could maybe use Yaya in one half, and Fernandinho in the other as we have done before.

Any news on Jovetic? He didn't play in the Montenegro friendly yesterday.
 
Pantillimon

richards
lescott
demichelis
clichy

garcia
milner
nasri

navas
silva
Aguero

Subs
hart
zabba
kompany
kolarov
yaya
negredo
fernandinho

hopfully get a few up and take nasri silva and aguero off
 
Len Rum said:
mammutly said:
Very surprised that there are still such doubters around.

These days, Manchester City are a different class to Wigan Athletic. Even if they are in form and even if we play a team with a view to Barcelona in midweek, City will win this game.

We don't have to be at our best to do it, somewhere near will do. That isn't arrogance, it's realism.
Were you at the Watford game?


Yes I was. And like a lot of people, I was confident at half time that we would win it.

Similar to Sunday in a way. These teams can hurt us if we don't concentrate, but I tend to see scoring against us as provocation.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
It's the combination that bothers me, mate. Vinny with Demichelis? Well, ok, just about (although there's a lot on here who'll disagree with me: cf. a certain goal scored not so very long ago by a certain Sunderland striker). Vinny with Nastasic? Well, pretty good last season, and that, make no mistake, is our long-term combination, whatever Nastasic's failings this season. He'll come back, he's very young. Vinny with Joleon: definitely, Joleon's a good player when he's got Vinny next to him, and he proved it over and over again during the title winning season (although there are strong signs that Pellegrini does not rate Lescott and he's not long-term for us).
On this question of burn-out, which I'm alert to. It seems to me that a central defender does not burn out to the extent that a box-to-box midfielder does, or even a striker who's constantly looking to shake his marker off. A central defender's essential job is to read balls coming at him, and to move into the appropriate position to mop up. Then, if they're skilled — as Vinny is — to move out of their box with the ball at their feet and release it at just the right moment to a midfielder who's in a better position. By the time they've got to the halfway line, they shouldn't have that ball any more. Then they should hold back. All this, Vinny does excellently, but I'm certain that this doesn't involve getting through as many miles on the park as many other players get through. Plus one other thing: Vinny's just come back from, what was it?, a four week lay-off. And was that the first time he's been injured this season? I seem to remember that it's the second, but I could be wrong. Yaya plays every single game if he's even vaguely fit. Beast seemed to play every single game, in every competition, until he got injured, and I think that's come back to bite him on the arse, big time. Silva's in the same category. These players, yes, must be rested.
Saying he has just come back from injury is pretty off, he returned from injury in early December against West Brom!
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
Pantillimon

richards
lescott
demichelis
clichy

garcia
milner
nasri

navas
silva
Aguero

Subs
hart
zabba
kompany
kolarov
yaya
negredo
fernandinho

hopfully get a few up and take nasri silva and aguero off

Lescott and MDM should never partner each other again..an accident waiting to happen
 
hart , dzeko , aguero , kolarov , kompany , yaya , fernandinho all played full international games in midweek , silva ,milner , zabs ,navas played as well , so with this in mind the sensible line up would be PANTS - RICHARDS, DEMICHELIS , LESCOTT , CLICHY - NASRI , RODWELL , GARCIA , LOPEZ - JOVETIC , NEGREDO because they are fresh and have been rested , but this team will get knocked out by an in-form wigan side.
We need to consider are we really going to win by 3 goals in barcelona , or shall we play our strongest team and get another wembley semi final and possible fa cup win.
Would prefer MP to play our strongest team in both games wigan and barca and face the consequences , its the business end of the season , lets get our strongest team out on the pitch and go for it , it could be a momentous season.
 
Davs 19 said:
uwe rosler 28 said:
Pantillimon

richards
lescott
demichelis
clichy

garcia
milner
nasri

navas
silva
Aguero

Subs
hart
zabba
kompany
kolarov
yaya
negredo
fernandinho

hopfully get a few up and take nasri silva and aguero off

Lescott and MDM should never partner each other again..an accident waiting to happen

This .. komps will have had a week off

komps and joleon please

Someone please, brief fookin Micah to remember to track back

get a couple and bring Sergio off , Merlin off and get Beast and Ferna on
 
dom said:
Davs 19 said:
uwe rosler 28 said:
Pantillimon

richards
lescott
demichelis
clichy

garcia
milner
nasri

navas
silva
Aguero

Subs
hart
zabba
kompany
kolarov
yaya
negredo
fernandinho

hopfully get a few up and take nasri silva and aguero off

Lescott and MDM should never partner each other again..an accident waiting to happen

This .. komps will have had a week off

komps and joleon please

Someone please, brief fookin Micah to remember to track back

get a couple and bring Sergio off , Merlin off and get Beast and Ferna on

He played for Belgium last night
 
oakiecokie said:
Just going slightly off the thread,but do we know how many tickets we`ve managed to shift so far, for this game ? Left mine until yesterday and we couldn`t get our own ST seats but we are slightly behind,but still in CB3,324.
Wigan sold their allocation put a week ago. I think they have got around 3,400. City's online ticket map suggests around 1k left in the City ends, largely in the 3rd tiers. I would think those would be sold before Kick Off, however if Wigan have sold out, I am not sure if City will be able to sell on the day
 
Regarding tickets I'm sure it'll sell out, we decided to go to it last minute and could only get 2 together in the family stand.

Hart / Micah Vinny Lescott Clichy / Navas Garcia Rodwell Milner / Jovetic Negredo

A lot of that depends on fitness and stuff so will probably be a bit out but it's the team I'd like to see
 
alky313 said:
It's either Richards/Kolarov or Zabaleta/Clichy

I would save one attack minded fullback for Barca
Since Richards is a lot more attack minded than Zaba, shouldn't that be the other way round?

I'd have Zaba/Kolarov for the Barca game, we'll need good crossing to put them under pressure chasing the tie as we are and I definitely wouldn't match Micah up against Neymar, he'll get tied in knots or lured into stupid fouls and a red card.
 
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