Manchester’s Changing Skyline

St Michael's is going to look amazing when it's finished.

The fins are being covered and protected bar a couple that are still visible.

No1 St Michael's - Office - 11 fl

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No2 St Michael's - Apartments & Hotel - 40 fl

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I'll do a proper construction update over the Christmas period.

Not done Salford, Chapel Street, Middlewood Locks, Regent Road, Pomona, etc for a while, so I'll do them next.
 
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Had the misfortune of having to walk through that chanel shit show on Saturday, streets paved with rubbish and drugged up scruffy cunts kipping on tables.

But let's build high rises for rich people to live in cheek by jowl with the homeless and the poor.
Do you really think it's all about high rise living for rich people?? I think that is a pretty myopic and incorrect opinion.

You do realise that this is all private money and it is bringing in tens of millions in revenue to the city council every year, money that they spend on services. There are also many affordable homes being built with this new incone contributing.
https://www.manchester.gov.uk/news/...omes will be,more people to become homeowners.

More new offices are being built and there is a general huge increase in inner city living which results in yet more employment through shops, restaurants and bars in the town centre?

Sure there is a terrible homeless problem, but the more money the council has to deal with it the better.
https://www.benoitproperties.com/ne... is on,the city's residential property market.

Surely this development as a whole is a good thing for Manchester?
 
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Surely this development as a whole is a good thing for Manchester?
Sure there is a terrible homeless problem, but the more money the council has to deal with it the better.

No mate I don't think so at all, look at just how much money is being spent on high rises and new vanity projects and just how much filters down to the real homeless people, it amounts to nothing.

People are being shifted from the inner city by the bus full to make way for business, why should erstwhile residents be happy that they get removed for a block of steel and glass just because it brings business into an area they can't afford to eat or live in?


Full breakdown of the new affordable homes:​


Rodney Street (Ancoats and Beswick) This City - £1,677,862 (38 affordable, 91 market – 129 homes)
Parkmount Road – Project 500 (Harpurhey) - MSV Housing - £467,178 - 24 affordable homes
Parkhill Avenue - Project 500 (Crumpsall) Great Places - £375,000 – 25 affordable homes
Blackwin Street – Project 500 (Gorton) One Manchester - £160,000 - 7 affordable homes
Plant Hill Road – Project 500 (Higher Blackley) Irwell Valley - £175,000 - 12 affordable homes
Jurby Avenue – Project 500 (Higher Blackley ) Irwell Valley - £215,280 - 13 affordable homes
 
No mate I don't think so at all, look at just how much money is being spent on high rises and new vanity projects and just how much filters down to the real homeless people, it amounts to nothing.

People are being shifted from the inner city by the bus full to make way for business, why should erstwhile residents be happy that they get removed for a block of steel and glass just because it brings business into an area they can't afford to eat or live in?


Full breakdown of the new affordable homes:​


Rodney Street (Ancoats and Beswick) This City - £1,677,862 (38 affordable, 91 market – 129 homes)
Parkmount Road – Project 500 (Harpurhey) - MSV Housing - £467,178 - 24 affordable homes
Parkhill Avenue - Project 500 (Crumpsall) Great Places - £375,000 – 25 affordable homes
Blackwin Street – Project 500 (Gorton) One Manchester - £160,000 - 7 affordable homes
Plant Hill Road – Project 500 (Higher Blackley) Irwell Valley - £175,000 - 12 affordable homes
Jurby Avenue – Project 500 (Higher Blackley ) Irwell Valley - £215,280 - 13 affordable homes
MCC is useless at getting s.106 monies for Affordable Housing, most are in GM with Wigan being average.

Most affordable homes are grant funded by the Government through Homes England, and the developers are let off. Also, if you look at the the above it is likely that only the Irwell Valley ones will be Affordable or Social Rent, the others being Affordable Home Ownership tenures which don't help 99.9% of homeless households.

The brownfield funding is a viability subsidy rather than an affordable housing subsidy.
 
MCC is useless at getting s.106 monies for Affordable Housing, most are in GM with Wigan being average.

Most affordable homes are grant funded by the Government through Homes England, and the developers are let off. Also, if you look at the the above it is likely that only the Irwell Valley ones will be Affordable or Social Rent, the others being Affordable Home Ownership tenures which don't help 99.9% of homeless households.

The brownfield funding is a viability subsidy rather than an affordable housing subsidy.

Always the same mate, at least Manchester will have skyscrapers where people with enough money can eat lunch on the 17th floor away from the maddening crowds.

Why everyone seems to believe that servicing big businesses needs is more important than the person shivering on the street is beyond me.
 
Do you really think it's all about high rise living for rich people?? I think that is a pretty myopic and incorrect opinion.

You do realise that this is all private money and it is bringing in tens of millions in revenue to the city council every year, money that they spend on services. There are also many affordable homes being built with this new incone contributing.
https://www.manchester.gov.uk/news/article/9038/new_housing_strategy_looks_to_deliver_10000_new_affordable_homes_in_the_next_10_years#:~:text=36,000 new homes will be,more people to become homeowners.

More new offices are being built and there is a general huge increase in inner city living which results in yet more employment through shops, restaurants and bars in the town centre?

Sure there is a terrible homeless problem, but the more money the council has to deal with it the better.
https://www.benoitproperties.com/news/manchester-growth-outpaces-that-of-other-big-six-cities/#:~:text=It seems Manchester is on,the city's residential property market.

Surely this development as a whole is a good thing for Manchester?
Concentrating the wealth on a densly populated small area which our city vwntre. is while the rest of Manchester and the satelite towns of GM are under invested in isn't good for Manchester long term imho.

We want Greater Manchester to grow, then expand this build of these things in other parts lileBolton, Ashton, oldham etc that are all delapdated andndying in their arse as small regional centers and grow a actual capital of the north to rival London.

That recent tubebmap overlay someone did recently showed how badly we under invest in Greater Manchester as an actual majob metropolitan county, whole town may thrive we let the rest plod along and deteriate.
 
Manchester is going to look like a small New York, Chicago soon, there are at least 20 big buildings between 100 and 250m tall under construction or planned for the next few years, i get my information from a site called skycrapercity which is a good informative site, but don't engage with the argumentative fanatics. on the Manchester forum, these people truly are "train spotters" the forum is totally dominated by very opinionated construction nerds.
There are many sites so we may be making completely different points irrelevant to each other. But from what I have seem, the comments there are quite reasonable and aware. With not so much of the uninformed 'old buildings good new buildings bad' throwaway cliche moaning. But as I say, we may be looking at completely different threads.
 

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