Manchester’s Changing Skyline

[Ribble73]

All of them?

Of course not -but as a general point. In our era it’s easy to dismiss what God and Faith meant to people in the 1920’s.

 

[jrb]

Those old Buildings were built for the whole Community to take pride in an era where there was a distinct sense of Community in and the various Industrialists of the era bought into the Zeitgeist of the era and followed suit. They were no doubt competing with other Towns in this. A lot of Local Pride came about through this as no doubt we are all aware of through our Ancestors.

These new developments the competition is between developers on eye catching developments with no notion of appealing to any “Community” which has to live or work there. There is no notion of doing anything for the “Community” involved at all.

Regarding work. Mainly offices in the city centre. Manchester has numerous good looking office buildings which have been designed externally and more importantly internally to offer a relaxing and positive working environment. Contrast that to the warehouses and work houses of the Victorian times, even though many of the warehouses looked splendid externally, they hid nothing but misery and hardship.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Something I am noticing though is a hell of a lot of independent businesses are closing down in Manchester city centre.

Two more well-loved city centre shops and cafes announce their closure after 25 years

Manchester says goodbye to two more city centre institutions.

www.manchesterworld.uk

South nightclub has closed, I still went there after City games on a Saturday and did so for about 15 years, and I’m gutted it’s gone.

Night & Day (another place I regularly go to) might be forced to close because one idiot bought a flat next door and has made noise complaints (who moves next door to a music institution in a busy and noisy city centre and complains about the noise?!) and that one is going to one final hearing in court where N&D have to put forward their case to remain open.

Fifth Ave has gone (I used to go there every Thursday night for years).

Home Sweet Home has gone, The Pilcrow went last year… among dozens of other small and indie businesses.

Soon Town will just be a place to live with nowhere interesting to shop apart from big chain shops and coffee shops like Costa.

 

[Coatigan]

Valid points.

The town hall being a prime example of cost. The cost of the refurb alone could be as high as £350mill by the time it's finished in 2024.

Saying that, if a property developer was prepared to rebuild Assize Court which was badly damaged in the German blitz of Manchester and later demolished, and....

the Victoria Buildings on Deansgste that were also destroyed in the German blitz., I'd be eternally grateful.

Sadly that's never going to happen.

Would be great, wouldn't it. But on the other hand, would you really want all.or most of Deansgate predominantly one style and era? Think what our bus parade would look like, repeat footage!

An decent amount of that still remains, and there is a heck of a varied mix on the street. Not all good, but certainly rich. And then turn off into Spinningfields for a whole new leap in scale and stle mix. Much better than stagnating or lack of progress due to obsessively enforcing a 'look' imo.

 

[somapop]

The warehouses on the Great Jackson Street Plot F site are being demolished.

Click on the link below to see the pictures. Posts #323 and #324.

Renaker - 2 x 52 storey residential towers.

Contour | Great Jackson Street | 154/154m | 52/52 fl | U/C

www.skyscrapercity.com

Are these the proposed designs JRB?

And is the Transition site differs to both F plots?
This pic doesn't even show Lizzie tower and the Blade & Cylinder yet still looks like there's loads of land left.

 

[jrb]

Are these the proposed designs JRB?

And is the Transition site differs to both F plots?
This pic doesn't even show Lizzie tower and the Blade & Cylinder yet still looks like there's loads of land left.

The towers have planning permission. We all know Renaker don’t mess about. Given the warehouses on site are being demolished, it really wouldn’t surprise me if Renaker are about to start onsite.

The warehouses on the Transition site are also being demolished. But there are no proposals for the site yet. The rumour is a possible new tall for Manchester, taller than the Deansgate South tower at 201 metres/66 stories.(from SSC-MCR)

 

[Felix.]

I need some help.

Does anyone know the name of this Golf course and the address? Can't find any specific info about it. I want to try and get on the golf course or close to the golf course so I can take some up to date pictures of the Manchester skyline. The only information I have is. (thanks)

Tameside boarder Werneth Low looking down to the Golf Course and the Manchester Skyline

Alamy pictures.

Mark Waugh / Alamy Stock Photo
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Wow that's a stunning view, love seeing the skyline get bigger and bigger every time I come to Manchester !

 

[jrb]

Would be great, wouldn't it. But on the other hand, would you really want all.or most of Deansgate predominantly one style and era? Think what our bus parade would look like, repeat footage!

An decent amount of that still remains, and there is a heck of a varied mix on the street. Not all good, but certainly rich. And then turn off into Spinningfields for a whole new leap in scale and stle mix. Much better than stagnating or lack of progress due to obsessively enforcing a 'look' imo.

Deansgate has a great mix of buildings.

No, just Victoria Buildings at the bottom end of Deansgate. Never going to happen sadly.

I like Spinningfields. It does look bit office generic, which it predominantly is, but it’s clean, tidy, well looked after, and has an interesting mix of buildings. The Civil Justice Centre/CJC is a wonderful building.

 

[somapop]

Can't recall if the posted the Albert Bridge House replacements has been posted and as much as I quite admire the current building, this looks very exciting:

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/gallery-oval-lodges-plans-for-albert-bridge-house-revamp/

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Those old Buildings were built for the whole Community to take pride in an era where there was a distinct sense of Community in and the various Industrialists of the era bought into the Zeitgeist of the era and followed suit. They were no doubt competing with other Towns in this. A lot of Local Pride came about through this as no doubt we are all aware of through our Ancestors.

These new developments the competition is between developers on eye catching developments with no notion of appealing to any “Community” which has to live or work there. There is no notion of doing anything for the “Community” involved at all.

Absolute nonsense.

Developers often have to provide areas of landscaped public open space and amenity areas, shops, bars, cafes and restaurants are often incorporated into developments.

And on top of that section 106 agreements levied on all developers allow local authorities to raise significant money to be spent on things like local sporting facilities, affordable housing, town centre improvements and even the health of the local people and communities.