Manchester - A city built by immigrants.

[yorknomore]

It wasn't an interpretation of the thread it was a response to the comments regarding Mancunians and how even being English is bollox.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It wasn't an interpretation of the thread it was a response to the comments regarding Mancunians and how even being English is bollox.

No one was saying that. Manchester is a city that has absorbed immigrants from many parts of the world. As the first modern insustrial city it did indeed pull in people from the local areas but it also attracted a lot of immigrants. I lived in Cheetham Hill inmy early years and among the large Jewish community, there were many Irish familes, Eastern European families (Baltic states & Poland mainly), West Indians, etc.

 

[sir baconface]

All this thread is showing is that some people think that immigrants are/were and will be more important than the Mancunians that have been,are and will be proud Mancunians.

It wasn't an interpretation of the thread it was a response to the comments regarding Mancunians and how even being English is bollox.

Not the way it came over, I'm afraid.

 

[Mike N]

I'm a son of Irish immigrants. I remember reading that a third of Manchester residents have a part of their ancestry that goes back to Ireland.

 

[Damocles]

Some people want to deny or wont acknowledge that Manchester has a rich history and to be a proud Mancunian is indeed something to be proud of. All this thread is showing is that some people think that immigrants are/were and will be more important than the Mancunians that have been,are and will be proud Mancunians. As you say you hear posters banging the drum about their Irish ancestors but forget to mention that you me or any given other person have ancestors going way back to Manchester.
When do 2nd 3rd 4th generation Mancunians start becoming just Mancunians without having to mention their entire DNA when self labelling?

My familal name can be traced back for about 1000 years to this area, and etymologically back to pre-Norman times. I am, for all intents and purposes as English as English can be, sharing both a Norman and potentially Angle heritage.

Youre all immigrants on my ancestral home. None of you did anything to build Manchester, it was all me. Fucking immigrants coming over here taking credit for the achievements of us Real Mancs

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

My familal name can be traced back for about 1000 years to this area, and etymologically back to pre-Norman times. I am, for all intents and purposes as English as English can be, sharing both a Norman and potentially Angle heritage.

Youre all immigrants on my ancestral home. None of you did anything to build Manchester, it was all me. Fucking immigrants coming over here taking credit for the achievements of us Real Mancs

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I am, for all intents and purposes as English as English can be, sharing both a Norman and potentially Angle heritage.

Angle heritage eh? That figures. Always said you were quite obtuse.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Angle heritage eh? That figures. Always said you were quite obtuse.

I think, him being an angle, tells us where he gets his belief he's always right from.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

What a dull country we'd live in today if we hadn't had the extent of immigration we've had over the last sixty years. I reckon 1950's Britain would be such a boring place to live.

 

[blueonblue]

Its fine an dandy prattling on about how Manchester was built by immigrants, but there is a huge difference between a time when the factory doors took all it could get and now, then it was just numbers to lift an carry or basic training to operate a simple machine at best, now you need a f*cking degree to be a dustbin man.

We do not need hordes of uneducated laborers, we have produced plenty of our own under 13 years of a labour education system, each immigrant reducing the chances of our children to get a job, home, Drs appointment, school place or hospital bed, while undermining pay and working conditions fought for by generations.

Are we to import poorly educated people (many with health problems at a time our health service is straining to breaking point ), most with no concept of diversity but instead a blind obedience to a stone age religion that preaches hate based simply on a few pictures that tug at the heart strings ?.

Try looking at the make up of these "poor refugee`s" an its about 98% able bodied males, they can have the same opportunities my forefathers enjoyed, if they dont like the country they live in then fight to change things.

Help and encourage them to put their own country in order by all means, but shut the borders before they drag this country ever downwards.